help stop horse theft.

[Jeremy]

Excellent point, but I'm thinking he/she would actually have had to be gelded to call he/she a gelding.

G stands for gelding?  I thought it stood for girl.  I will play my bets differently now.

[NIATROSS]

Well if she was so worried about the horse, she should of kept him 

My first post on this topic anywhere and I agree 1000% with your post.

 

[pezz97]

My first post on this topic anywhere and I agree 1000% with your post.

 

You were to fast, I deleted it and was going to add more, but oh well 

[NIATROSS]

You were to fast, I deleted it and was going to add more, but oh well 

Me fast ? 

[Jeremy]

Dear 3ww,

In this thread you called me a piece of shit and an internet tough guy.  You offered to fight me and I said I would meet you in Pittsburgh... which is about halfway and you changed the subject.  That is all fine and I don't care how you feel about me.  However it is comical that later in this thread you are whining because someone called you an idiot.  People have told me in the past that I come across as never wanting or admitting to being wrong, and I have always accepted the fact that I am not always right.  Perhaps it is time for you to mature some and realize that other people may know more than you about a subject and allow yourself to admit to being wrong, and you are basing your opinion on emotions rather than facts.  You just may be a happier person at the end of the day.

Cheers,

Jeremy

[3 wide and wingin]

Dear 3ww,

In this thread you called me a piece of shit and an internet tough guy.  You offered to fight me and I said I would meet you in Pittsburgh... which is about halfway and you changed the subject.  That is all fine and I don't care how you feel about me.  However it is comical that later in this thread you are whining because someone called you an idiot.  People have told me in the past that I come across as never wanting or admitting to being wrong, and I have always accepted the fact that I am not always right.  Perhaps it is time for you to mature some and realize that other people may know more than you about a subject and allow yourself to admit to being wrong, and you are basing your opinion on emotions rather than facts.  You just may be a happier person at the end of the day.

Cheers,

Jeremy

Whining?

I have people as credible as gary giving me FACTS
I understand there are 2 sides.
Just becasue this is garys forum doesnt mean he has all the facts.
As I said before go outside this forum and you will see I am in the majority not the lone voice. But yu guys have silenced the others on the other side.

Fact the horse was designated for pleasure only.
Fact the man has a conviction for animal creulty.

If I want to call any race secretary who takes an entry for the horse I am.
Why dont yuo call and sing his praises.

Fact horse hasnt raced since july 10th.

Fact
I really doubt kind hearted Mr. Raber is being gentle and giving the horse a month off.
Good luck to him.

But I will continue on.

And Jeremy with you I consider it more of in fun.

You guys want to call the varous race offices and lend support letting the horse race. Go for it.

[pezz97]

Whining?

I have people as credible as gary giving me FACTS
I understand there are 2 sides.
Just becasue this is garys forum doesnt mean he has all the facts.
As I said before go outside this forum and you will see I am in the majority not the lone voice. But yu guys have silenced the others on the other side.

Fact the horse was designated for pleasure only.
Fact the man has a conviction for animal creulty.

If I want to call any race secretary who takes an entry for the horse I am.
Why dont yuo call and sing his praises.

Fact horse hasnt raced since july 10th.

Fact
I really doubt kind hearted Mr. Raber is being gentle and giving the horse a month off.
Good luck to him.

But I will continue on.

And Jeremy with you I consider it more of in fun.

You guys want to call the varous race offices and lend support letting the horse race. Go for it.

FACT- We don't go butting into other people's business that we don't know, unlike you....

[Jeremy]

I have people as credible as gary giving me FACTS

Fact the horse was designated for pleasure only.
Fact the man has a conviction for animal creulty.

Gary is a 3rd party in collecting information.  Do the people giving you your facts have any personal attachment to this horse?  If the answer is yes they are not as credible, just ask any auditor.

In my opinion, I don't see how you can be against a horse racing for the welfare of the horse but then be a supporter of horse racing in general.  This horse is probably healthier than many other horses out there.

[Jeremy]

FACT- We don't go butting into other people's business that we don't know, unlike you....

I have had a conversation with many people about people not respecting the privacy of others as well as not respecting their own privacy in these days of Facebook, Twitter and Youtube.

[pezz97]

Gary is a 3rd party in collecting information.  Do the people giving you your facts have any personal attachment to this horse?  If the answer is yes they are not as credible, just ask any auditor.

In my opinion, I don't see how you can be against a horse racing for the welfare of the horse but then be a supporter of horse racing in general.  This horse is probably healthier than many other horses out there.

That doesn't matter to him Jeremy. It also doesn't matter to him that the horse has been cleared to race by 2 vets in Ohio. That is obvious or he still wouldn't be going on and on with this. I swear he is a peta member.

[burton]

Whining?

I have people as credible as gary giving me FACTS

Fact the horse was designated for pleasure only.
Fact the man has a conviction for animal creulty.

If I want to call any race secretary who takes an entry for the horse I am.
Why dont yuo call and sing his praises.

Fact horse hasnt raced since july 10th.

Fact
I really doubt kind hearted Mr. Raber is being gentle and giving the horse a month off.
Good luck to him.

But I will continue on.

And Jeremy with you I consider it more of in fun.

You guys want to call the varous race offices and lend support letting the horse race. Go for it.

3W,
I know you are very sincere about all this and I admire your passion in advocating that horses get the best possible care.
I think we all do.
But many of the simple facts in thsi matter have been completely either messed up accidentally or lied about on purpose just so certain individuals don't appear to be wrong.
(Those types are never wrong)
I guess my initial question is why did the original owner get rid of the horse to begin with?
If she cared so much about the animal, she should have kept it.
Lots of misinformation about why the horse was scratched etc;
Giss who is totally credible to me posted the facts about the scratch.
The scratch had nothing whatsoever to do with Raber but with the racing 30 and 45 day rules at each state involved.
Now a good friend has told me that on plop your compadre on all this, the dishonest and reprehensible javelina is calling for violence to come down on Raber. Disgusting but typical of this loser.
My suggestion is to get as many facts as you can from credible sources and go form there.
I see people are calling the Zainesville office to complain about the entry.
Well sorry to say but I've been in contact withseveral other posters from varios forums who are doing the same thing but telling the racing office that the horse should race.

As for your treatment here, I think a few are totally out of line and I'm surprised such vicious vulgarity is allowed.
That is totally wrong.
When posters can't argue and discuss facts, they get personal.
They are losers. Never really seen that kind of poster allowed here for any length of time.
I know you're a good guy with a determined mind and heart.
But I say it pays to know the whole story before going off with half the story and urging action.
To be associated with the certain poster who is calling Raber a thief etc; is to risk your own good reputation.
Take care and good luck.

[Just Saying]

Is it true that PETA is a PITA?

[3 wide and wingin]

3W,
I know you are very sincere about all this and I admire your passion in advocating that horses get the best possible care.
I think we all do.
But many of the simple facts in thsi matter have been completely either messed up accidentally or lied about on purpose just so certain individuals don't appear to be wrong.
(Those types are never wrong)
I guess my initial question is why did the original owner get rid of the horse to begin with?
If she cared so much about the animal, she should have kept it.
Lots of misinformation about why the horse was scratched etc;
Giss who is totally credible to me posted the facts about the scratch.
The scratch had nothing whatsoever to do with Raber but with the racing 30 and 45 day rules at each state involved.
Now a good friend has told me that on plop you compadre on all this, the dishonest and reprehensible javelina is calling for violence to come down on Raber.
My suggestion is to get as many facts as you can from credible sources and go form there.
I see people are calling the Zainesville office to complain about the entry.
Well sorry to say but I've been in contact withseveral other posters from varios forums who are doing the same thing but telling the racing office that the horse should race.

As for your treatment here, I think a few are totally out of line and I'm surprised such vicious vulgarity is allowed.
That is totally wrong.
When posters can't argue and discuss facts, they get personal.
They are losers. Never really seen that kind of poster allowed here for any length of time.
I know you're a good guy with a determined mind and heart.
But I say it pays to know the whole story before going off with half the story and urging action.
To be associated with the certain poster who is calling Raber a thief etc; is to risk your own good reputation.
Take care and good luck.

The womans farm was full and she gave the horse to what she thought was a credible home. Its hard for people to find a nice home for every horse. At least she tried.

I really do not believe that she is worried the horse will win races etc etc.
Her concern is for the horse.

I value Jodi and Janines opinions as much as Garys.

you dont mind yur own business when yuo see something wrong happening.

Regardless I agree it is pointless for me to go on and on here about this.

So you guys have suceeded in having your group silence everyone on the other side. At least on this forum.

Take care all.

P.S. Thanks as always for the kind words Burton.

[Jeremy]

I value Jodi and Janines opinions as much as Garys.

thought they were facts 20 minutes ago

[javelina]

Im being a good Samaritan...for the horse and the original owner...

The parable of the Good Samaritan is a parable told by Jesus and is mentioned in only one of the Canonical gospels of the New Testament. According to the Gospel of Luke (10:29-37) a traveller (who may or may not be Jewish[1]) is beaten, robbed, and left half dead along the road. First a priest and then a Levite come by, but both avoid the man. Finally, a Samaritan comes by. Samaritans and Jews generally despised each other, but the Samaritan helps the injured man. Jesus is described as telling the parable in response to a question regarding the identity of the "neighbour" which Leviticus 19:18 says should be loved.

Portraying a Samaritan in positive light would have come as a shock to Jesus' audience.[2] It is typical of his provocative speech in which conventional expectations are inverted.[2]

Some Christians, such as Augustine, have interpreted the parable allegorically, with the Samaritan representing Jesus Christ, who saves the sinful soul.[3] Others, however, discount this allegory as unrelated to the parable's original meaning,[3] and see the parable as exemplifying the ethics of Jesus, which have won nearly universal praise, even from those outside the Church.[4]

The parable has inspired painting, sculpture, poetry, and film. The colloquial phrase "good Samaritan," meaning someone who helps a stranger, derives from this parable, and many hospitals and charitable organizations are named after the Good Samaritan.