help stop horse theft.

[AmyHollar]

WHOA!  I'm the campaign manager here, not the candidate.  Fuzzy-a-licious is in the wrong election.

[mo doc n]

fuzzy ,

Where is my old horse

Ryan Anderson claimed him just before 2003 and when we boycotted shipped him to Greg P. , he would not sell him back to me and these people (listed below) were the last to see him and you said they don't remember
It's hard to forget a horse with a knee the size of a 16 inch softball.
I know he made his way down to Mexico and they wouldn't even call me about it back in 2003.

INCREDIBLE REDNECK (T50363, G)
INCREDIBLE FINALE - JJ'S FLOWER - ALBATROSS   



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GENERAL INFORMATION
Foaling Date: 04/25/1998 Sex: Gelding
Foaling Place: SHERMAN IL Color: Bay
Tattoo:  Freezebrand: T5036   
Death Date:     S&D Last Year: 
Markings: STAR; STRIP; LEFT FRONT HEEL; BOTH HIND ANKLES WHITE WITH SPOTS ON CORONETS. 

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Eligibility:  Yes

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CURRENT OWNER
Donald G Ratchford (4844C6) SACRAMENTO,CA   Effective: 04/19/2003
 
Edson Lee Mitchell (620H80) Fulson,CA   Effective: 04/19/2003
 
Certificate Mailed 04/29/03

[eljay]

My first post here.  Closed my account at another site several years ago and wouldn't go back at the point of a gun.  Have witnessed Fuzzy's verbal attacks on other posters tolerated and encouraged because her uninformed opinions matched the moderators.  Found this site and am impressed with the apparent pragmatic understanding of the horse business.

Could someone inform that mental giant and wordsmith Fuzzy that PENN STATE is not in OHIO?

[AmyHollar]

I've been too busy telling her about my plumbing.................welcome!!

[LVGaryD]

My first post here.  Closed my account at another site several years ago and wouldn't go back at the point of a gun.  Have witnessed Fuzzy's verbal attacks on other posters tolerated and encouraged because her uninformed opinions matched the moderators.  Found this site and am impressed with the apparent pragmatic understanding of the horse business.

Could someone inform that mental giant and wordsmith Fuzzy that PENN STATE is not in OHIO?

Welcome to In The Sulky Eljay. Many of us here are either in the sports as owners, trainers, grooms, or in my case, a broker. I trained and groomed horses for 22 years before entering semi-retirement as a casino dealer in Las Vegas. Yes I miss the horses every day of my life, but this site and my brokering keep me somewhat involved.

We also have many bettors here that I believe want to learn what being around horses for a living consists of. From time to time we have about as good a group of handicappers as you will find anywhere.

Hopefully we shine some light on the business, despite Amy's and my bullshit posts. Mainly we just have fun here. From time to time some folks post some serious things that cause people to actually think, but have found that most of the time many of our members would rather drink or enjoy illicit mariquana....or both.

Enjoy!

[beans and weenies]

Welcome to In The Sulky Eljay. Many of us here are either in the sports as owners, trainers, grooms, or in my case, a broker. I trained and groomed horses for 22 years before entering semi-retirement as a casino dealer in Las Vegas. Yes I miss the horses every day of my life, but this site and my brokering keep me somewhat involved.

We also have many bettors here that I believe want to learn what being around horses for a living consists of. From time to time we have about as good a group of handicappers as you will find anywhere.

Hopefully we shine some light on the business, despite Amy's and my bullshit posts. Mainly we just have fun here. From time to time some folks post some serious things that cause people to actually think, but have found that most of the time many of our members would rather drink or enjoy illicit mariquana....or both.

Enjoy!

Well said Oh Fearless leader.     and Amen

[fuzzypants]

fuzzy ,

Where is my old horse

Ryan Anderson claimed him just before 2003 and when we boycotted shipped him to Greg P. , he would not sell him back to me and these people (listed below) were the last to see him and you said they don't remember
It's hard to forget a horse with a knee the size of a 16 inch softball.
I know he made his way down to Mexico and they wouldn't even call me about it back in 2003.

INCREDIBLE REDNECK (T50363, G)
INCREDIBLE FINALE - JJ'S FLOWER - ALBATROSS   



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GENERAL INFORMATION
Foaling Date: 04/25/1998 Sex: Gelding
Foaling Place: SHERMAN IL Color: Bay
Tattoo:  Freezebrand: T5036   
Death Date:     S&D Last Year: 
Markings: STAR; STRIP; LEFT FRONT HEEL; BOTH HIND ANKLES WHITE WITH SPOTS ON CORONETS. 

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Eligibility:  Yes

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CURRENT OWNER
Donald G Ratchford (4844C6) SACRAMENTO,CA   Effective: 04/19/2003
 
Edson Lee Mitchell (620H80) Fulson,CA   Effective: 04/19/2003
 
Certificate Mailed 04/29/03

Mo doc n
I had friends of mine ask Ratford flat out what happen to the horse since I new damn good and welll I would not get a strait answer and the answere he gave was he couldnt remember the horse.
Which I have asked high and low and i have no answer from any other than the same one i keep getting no one remembers your horse. Am I surprised they didnt call you no and just shows me all the more how bad and disgusting the inhumane treatment of so called horsemen in every end of the racing industry really are. What do we expect a race track that hires  golf ball theifs and lets them claim horse while working for the race track and then doesnt half one ounce of compassion to call you and say hay you want your horse back before we do the dirty deed of letting him disapear.
this same group gave me a trotter that was so wk he fell off the trailer he was so wk when i ran blood on him immediately the horse was starving to death I was told he wouldnt eat by the crew that had him well i guess they didnt no if you dont feed a horse he cant eat.
I hate slaughter I have been in the harness industry since 2008 and I am so disgusted by the general attitude of putting a horse last. I cannot even beging to tell you how disgusted I am of the percentage of harness horse that are feeding the slaughter train and the way owners are lied too just to get anoher horse down the road to Mexico or Canada for slaughter the industry is doomed until we take a stance against the slaughter and abuse of any of our horses.
I tried Mo Doc n but you see the attitude no one wants to openly tell the stories of how all this is happening.
Your friends here are right Im no mental giant im only here to try and make a plea that all this must stop.
People say how they miss being at the track and around horses.
I only hope some day I would be able to say I sure as hell dont miss all those that turn a blind eye to the covert practises of in humane and un ethical treatment equines have absorbed at every racetrack and at every level.
You have not suffered this loss of your horse alone many have it doesnt make it any better these situations but it has to stop.
Japan  didnt make a call to Kentucky befor the slaughtered Ferdinand .
No call was made to my fellow owner Wendy when a forever home was not found for her horse  Four Starz.
No call was made to Maggie Moss when she donated a Thoroughbred to a rescue organization and her horse showed up at a slaughter pin. This is exactly the covert bull to fill the slaughter trains.
But I for one will never stop.
I feel so bad for you MoDoc and I wish I had a better answer.
but as far as Im concerned the group that didnt call you are no different than all the dishonest juicers and stiffers cheaters that just demise the art of harness racing and in my opinion worse. they have shown such disrespect for horses to the point it is an acceptable practise on the pretense well every one does it !
Mo Doc N not every one does treat used race horses in that way and many of us want it stopped.

[Just Saying]

just shows me all the more how bad and disgusting the inhumane treatment of so called horsemen in every end of the racing industry really are.

Well now, sister, let me tell you something: I dare you to walk into my stable and find a horse that isn't slick & shiney, with a bucket of clean fresh water, a clean stall, and hay at his feet. Look at the horses in the Hollar stable, the Brown stable, the Burke stable, the Tony Alagna stable, the Erv Miller stable, the Williams stable, etc, etc, etc.

Pull your pompous head out of your pompous ass and look around. There are many, many good horsemen in the racing business who worry more about their horses than they do about themselves. Apparently your vast 4 years of experience hasn't taught you much. I guess your right about one thing: You're no mental giant.

[3 wide and wingin]

Well now, sister, let me tell you something: I dare you to walk into my stable and find a horse that isn't slick & shiney, with a bucket of clean fresh water, a clean stall, and hay at his feet. Look at the horses in the Hollar stable, the Brown stable, the Burke stable, the Tony Alagna stable, the Erv Miller stable, the Williams stable, etc, etc, etc.

Pull your pompous head out of your pompous ass and look around. There are many, many good horsemen in the racing business who worry more about their horses than they do about themselves. Apparently your vast 4 years of experience hasn't taught you much. I guess your right about one thing: You're no mental giant.

Lots of great people in the sport. A pretty large majority.

But the scumbag element is there. And they are some of the scummiest people you could come into contact with.

Back back to the original point. Instead of some of the personal bickering.

Raber yet to enter the horse in another race or a sale.

I have always thought it was his goal to get a decent qual or 2 and quietly put the horse in a sale and make his money.
All the fuss means he cant do that.

Will be intersting to see what his next move is. And if we will even know about it.

[AmyHollar]

Hey Fuzz-ster..........your friend Wendi.........you know how she has some horses racing?

Her trainer has a MAJOR violation!  OH MY!

BUT......here is the best.........and I guess while you are busy calling everyone else scum bag horse abusers you kind of skipped over this one...........her driver...........who she is obviously loyal enough too, he went from California to Running Aces with her horses.............well..................I would post his fines and days for inappropriate use of the whip and drug violations, BUT I'M TOO DAMN BUSY LAUGHING MY ASS OFF!!!!!!!! 

[LVGaryD]

As the world turns..... 

[3 wide and wingin]

As the world turns..... 

Not jumping in here but to say I know Amy and Fuzzy pretty well and think neither are bad people and are trying to do what they think is right.
Both are nice and mean well.

[AmyHollar]

I'm NOT NICE!  I'm KIND caring and genuine.

[Jeremy]

I'm NOT NICE!  I'm KIND caring and genuine.

It didn't seem nice and well meaning when fuzzy tried to trash your family and you on this site.

[AmyHollar]

I bet she has a bottle of Bombay Sapphire in the mail to me as an apology.