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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: The Skipper on June 09, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
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Balmorals 2nd race Sunday ..... Travesty ! Everyone involved with that call should be in jail shootme
What a joke and the handle in IL keeps dropping, after watching this they should not be allowed to
have harness racing in this state. FYI I had NO WAGER in the race.
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What happened?
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What happened?
It's better to watch the replay but there was a entry and one part of the entry broke on the lead and did
not impede anyone and followed all the rules, the other half of the entry won easily but they DQ'ed him
saying that by the other horse breaking it improved his chance to win birdienana unreal never seen it.
that horse breaking improved every horses chance WTF ? F&*k IL racing, if the crooked thieves on
the track don't screw you then the stupid morons in the office screw you. I'll stick with betting
J Dauplaise on low priced horses at M1 at least I think you get a square shake for your money.
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Never know what the illinios judges see. Have always believed they are the worst in the biz. Always take forever to make up their mind too.
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Balmorals 2nd race Sunday ..... Travesty ! Everyone involved with that call should be in jail shootme
What a joke and the handle in IL keeps dropping, after watching this they should not be allowed to
have harness racing in this state. FYI I had NO WAGER in the race.
not sure why a travesty..its not the first time an entry got taken down because 1/2 of it interfered with the field..with #1 breaking on lead causing the 2 to pull out and screw up Trot Fudge Sunday..its the bad part of betting an entry. I assume you are argueing that the #1 should have only been placed behind Hot Fudge..their arguement would be #1 affected #2 who affected #4 so #1 had to be placed behind both even though the winning horse did nothing
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not sure why a travesty..its not the first time an entry got taken down because 1/2 of it interfered with the field..with #1 breaking on lead causing the 2 to pull out and screw up Trot Fudge Sunday..its the bad part of betting an entry. I assume you are argueing that the #1 should have only been placed behind Hot Fudge..their arguement would be #1 affected #2 who affected #4 so #1 had to be placed behind both even though the winning horse did nothing
BULLSHIT ! He broke and did not interfere with anyone ! he went to the inside and was out of the
way, they did not say he caused interference because he didn't. IL racing in general sucks !
I'm guessing you did not see the race if you think he interfered with anyone.
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Now Tom Kelley writes a story that quick ? rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Watch the replay, I don't think anyone got impeded by the leader breaking, but wtf do I know ?
I have to see what knowsitall has to say about this noway shootme birdienana birdienana birdienana
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Watched replay and I have to agree with Mags.
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I didn't see any interference at all. Maybe the other views made it look different, I don't know. idunno
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Watched replay and I have to agree with Mags.
Really ? WTF are you guys watching ? Taylor was about 3 lengths clear and broke and went inside,
Homer never moved one f%cking inch ! If that was the case whats right is right, but that was just not
right. Dom never said 1 thing about ANY interference but he did say the winner was placed 4th now
read the charts and it's a different story now because they know they robbed the people. shootme
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I didn't see any interference at all. Maybe the other views made it look different, I don't know. idunno
Yes you are correct. I hope they played the whole reason on the replay you'll hear a different story than
what the charts show, it's just so sick IMO.
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That is awful!!!! There is a reason ( Or many) That I don't bet Illinois racing anymore. Homer's horse didn't get affected at all. Didn't pull to the outside, the 4 just pulled outside of him and broke. 1 did nothing to affect that at all. What a joke
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You guys much have been watching a different replay. Just before the 1 broke, the 4 started to come out to pass the 2. When the horse broke, the 2 was impeded causing him to back off a bit in turn causing the 4 to break. Good call judges!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure glad you guys aren't judges.
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I'm with Mags and Hal on this one, definitely think they got the call right. The 1 breaking causes the 2 horse to take up which made the 4 run up the back of him and cause him to break.
This reminds me a lot of when Check Me Out broke and caused Maven to go offstride in the Hambo Oaks, we had a nice heated debate with the Skipper on that one too and I believe he was ready to bet all his winnings for the day there wouldn't be a dq. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 Good times!
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I do agree that it was an overreaction by Homer on the 2 that
affected the #4 but I do feel #4 broke because of Homers overreaction which was started by the break of #1. I could even see placing the #1 second as they really didnt affect Homers horse. Glad I had no money on the line.
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I still say Homers horse was not affected one bit noway What fired me up was Doms explanation of the
DQ, he said by the entry mate breaking the winner gained an unfair advantage and would be placed 4th.
Now if he had said from the beginning that the 1 made Homer check and caused Magee to break then I
say well if they think that OK. Then about 15 mins after the race T. Kelley has the article posted on the
USTA website with a whole different story of the DQ, they take longer than that to post the results !
Tell me when was the last time an entry got taken down in IL because of the other part causing
anything ? Unless you bet 2 bucks or less a race you're better off setting your money on fire than you
are wagering on IL harness racing.
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Needless to say I was home so I didn't hear the explanation given. I've never had much confidence in the Balmoral stewards over the years as consistancy has been a problem in the past. As far as lighting my cash on fire..a leopard doesnt change his spots so I'll be back at it next saturday as usual mixing in some top notch races at Mohawk.
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I'm with Mags and Hal on this one, definitely think they got the call right. The 1 breaking causes the 2 horse to take up which made the 4 run up the back of him and cause him to break.
This reminds me a lot of when Check Me Out broke and caused Maven to go offstride in the Hambo Oaks, we had a nice heated debate with the Skipper on that one too and I believe he was ready to bet all his winnings for the day there wouldn't be a dq. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 Good times!
And SOME people think you're the smarter of the brothers. noway
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So, it is easy to say that Homer "overreacted" by checking his horse when the 1 broke. When a horse breaks in front of you and is going sideways, I bet he saw his life flash before his eyes. I don't blame him a bit for being cautious. Homer's horse does not interfere with anyone if the #1 doesn't break. Maybe some need to work on their visual acuity. As for the slams on IL racing it has become so old hat I just ignore it now. If anyone wants to feel superior because they flush hundreds or thousands away at some other sewer, so be it.
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The worst call was the Odds on Equiless DQ... This was the correct call...
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So, it is easy to say that Homer "overreacted" by checking his horse when the 1 broke. When a horse breaks in front of you and is going sideways, I bet he saw his life flash before his eyes. I don't blame him a bit for being cautious. Homer's horse does not interfere with anyone if the #1 doesn't break. Maybe some need to work on their visual acuity. As for the slams on IL racing it has become so old hat I just ignore it now. If anyone wants to feel superior because they flush hundreds or thousands away at some other sewer, so be it.
Hal we don't all win EVERY SINGLE TIME we gamble like you do, I guess you're right I'm blind and because
it happened at Balmoral it's acceptable idunno
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The worst call was the Odds on Equiless DQ... This was the correct call...
I disagree about this being the right call but I do agree on the OOE DQ being the worst. I don't think people
are understanding my stance on this call, you would have had to seen it in real time along with hearing the
explanation that Dom gave for the DQ. I was not betting I was going to play a P-4 and was just watching
to see how the track was playing so it had no effect on me. Oh well it is what it is, typical IL BS.
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I disagree about this being the right call but I do agree on the OOE DQ being the worst. I don't think people
are understanding my stance on this call, you would have had to seen it in real time along with hearing the
explanation that Dom gave for the DQ. I was not betting I was going to play a P-4 and was just watching
to see how the track was playing so it had no effect on me. Oh well it is what it is, typical IL BS.
I did see it in real time and as soon as it happened I thought there could be a DQ. I did bet and I had the 1 on all tickets, if you watch the 2 horses were caused confusion..
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Hal we don't all win EVERY SINGLE TIME we gamble like you do, I guess you're right I'm blind and because
it happened at Balmoral it's acceptable idunno
rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 I'm down $5000 this year. Those damn $2 bets sure ADD UP IN A HURRY!!
I don't always agree with the judges at Balmoral or any other track for that matter. But, you know what? They don't give a hoot if I agree with them or not. Bad calls are not acceptable at any time. That call was not a bad one. It was exactly what I would have done if I was a judge. I should step up my donations to my buddy Gov. Quinn, maybe I can become one. Hell, maybe I should donate to Christy in NJ and I could be a judge at the Big M.!!!!
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Just watched the replay. That's when of the worst calls I've ever seen. No interference at all. Davey broke all by himself. Total bs call.
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Just watched the replay. That's when of the worst calls I've ever seen. No interference at all. Davey broke all by himself. Total bs call.
Oh Oh here we go again..I've always found it interesting that two people can see the same thing and NOT see the same thing..cashman we gotta have a beer together sometime rflmao1 rflmao1
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Just watched the replay. That's when of the worst calls I've ever seen. No interference at all. Davey broke all by himself. Total bs call.
Hey wanna ride with me to the eye Dr ? If you watch the replay below all the way through they show
different angles and IMO Magees horse breaks the same time Taylors horse does. It was a judgement
call which I understand but Dom didn't explain it as being interference and I challenge anyone to post
the last time they used this rule. I'm done with this thread and whether they made the right call or not
the way it was handled was total BS. Daveys horses head was cocked that whole turn and wanted out
but he wouldn't let her go.
http://66.209.93.91/racereplays/cust/harnessracing.php?r=20130609BP2
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Oh Oh here we go again..I've always found it interesting that two people can see the same thing and NOT see the same thing..cashman we gotta have a beer together sometime rflmao1 rflmao1
LOL me and Bobby said the same exact thing last night or this morning hammerhead1
OK now I'm done with this thread FOR REAL ! rflmao1
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I remember Northfield a few years back had a horse break (i think it was air mcnair) during the race after it looked like it got interfered with. An inquiry came up and the judges said there was no interference but the race chart showed an interference break. I emailed the judges at the advice of the Giss and they said they were giving the horse the benefit of the doubt. Weird explanation in my opinion.
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Oh Oh here we go again..I've always found it interesting that two people can see the same thing and NOT see the same thing..cashman we gotta have a beer together sometime rflmao1 rflmao1
Always down for a cold one Mags!
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The worst call was the Odds on Equiless DQ... This was the correct call...
You may now lock this thread. thumbsup
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Oh Oh here we go again..I've always found it interesting that two people can see the same thing and NOT see the same thing..cashman we gotta have a beer together sometime rflmao1 rflmao1
You aren't kidding....I keep watching this thing over and over wondering how the hell anyone can think this shouldn't have been a dq...and it's not just one person it's several. And one of them is supposedly related to me, although I'd love to see the hospital videos of those nights. Something seems fishy to me. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
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You aren't kidding....I keep watching this thing over and over wondering how the hell anyone can think this shouldn't have been a dq...and it's not just one person it's several. And one of them is supposedly related to me, although I'd love to see the hospital videos of those nights. Something seems fishy to me. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
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You aren't kidding....I keep watching this thing over and over wondering how the hell anyone can think this shouldn't have been a dq...and it's not just one person it's several. And one of them is supposedly related to me, although I'd love to see the hospital videos of those nights. Something seems fishy to me. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
NOW THIS is a thread closer if I've ever heard one rflmao1
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Balmoral is still open? Wow, I had no idea. idunno
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Balmoral is still open? Wow, I had no idea. idunno
Not only is it open, but they race more days a week than the Big M!!!
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The worst call was the Odds on Equiless DQ.
I have to agree. That was a ridiculous call.
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Not only is it open, but they race more days a week than the Big M!!!
And in the 3 nights they raced last week, they barely outhandled what Mohawk did just on Saturday. That 500K handle they had last wed sure makes everyone think they should race everyday.............
The only track that should be taken seriously as an everyday track that has handle to make money is which ever WEG track is racing. That is it.
There have been some Big M cards lately that have looked like some balmoral cards. And last sat, the drivers at balmoral were better and this is the championship meet.
It will get better there after this weekend, but to compare anything racing in Illinois right now to anything else is comical. Illinois racing is a joke. Sorry Old and Slow.
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Every year Big M cards are weak around this time. But the drivers that are showing up there this year. Makes it almost unbettable.
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Do we always have to beat this same dead horse? Most people think Illinois racing sucks, some defend it, and we continue on this same path over and over again. LET IT GO ALREADY!!!
The Big M sucks too, it's nothing close to what it was, should be, or needs to be. Racing twice a week is a complete joke. If people want to bet Illinois racing that's up to them, I personally don't like to but others might, and at least they race on more then just Friday and Saturday.
I personally love betting Mohawk/Woodbine, the 4 nights per week is great, the big track size, the quality of the product, and nice pools keep me happy. And I know a lot of people that can't stand betting it...IT'S A PREFERENCE!!!! It doesn't make anyone right or wrong based on where they want to spend their gambling dollars.
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Right on RR! Trouble is you can't have an IL racing thread without the haters rubbing your nose in shit. I know who hates it having been told 100s of times. That is your right. But, it doesn't make those who may still enjoy it morons and $2 bettors who don't know any better. I was around for all the glory days and know how much it has declined. I wish there 4,000 people at the track on a Wed. Night like back in 63 when I first started going. But, alas, those days are gone forever.