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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: sea biscuit on November 03, 2011, 05:31:04 PM
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Harnessracingupdate.com reports
Weather, Panda Air Grounds Breeders Crown
Drivers, Trainers
By Darin Zoccali
Drivers Tim Tetrick, Yannick Gingras, George Brennan
and Dave Miller, trainer-driver Jimmy Takter and trainer
Trond Smedhammer never made it to Woodbine for the
Breeders Crown as severe fall weather in the New York
metropolitan area grounded a charter flight the group had
scheduled to take them to Toronto.
The weather woes were particu-larly costly to Tetrick, who was scheduled to drive three Breeders Crown winners
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Doubt is Andrew Cohen cares. ::)
Just read his rant.........I don't think he and I would last in close proximity with out a full out verbal war for long. dorkusinterruptus
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Doubt is Andrew Cohen cares. ::)
Just read his rant.........I don't think he and I would last in close proximity with out a full out verbal war for long. dorkusinterruptus
Or you possibly punching his lights out...I saw what you did to Poor Saint Calvin's nose. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
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I only punch those I truly care about. 8)
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They can try and deflect the blame all they want but it is there fault
for not being at Woodbine period.
They had a flight scheduled that would have gotten to Woodbine about an hour before the races begin.Everyone knew bad weather was rolling in with reports by Friday.They left themselves no outs in case anything went wrong and things do go wrong all the time.
On the biggest day purse wise in harness racing not one of these clowns thought about taking no chances and going earlier ?
I'm sorry but I'm NOT buying the weather or Airline screwed them,they screwed themselves.
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They can try and deflect the blame all they want but it is there fault
for not being at Woodbine period.
They had a flight scheduled that would have gotten to Woodbine about an hour before the races begin.Everyone knew bad weather was rolling in with reports by Friday.They left themselves no outs in case anything went wrong and things do go wrong all the time.
On the biggest day purse wise in harness racing not one of these clowns thought about taking no chances and going earlier ?
I'm sorry but I'm NOT buying the weather or Airline screwed them,they screwed themselves.
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All in all, I'm not sure the results would have changed much if at all. Luc, Campbell, Palone, and Pierce were very good replacements.
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All in all, I'm not sure the results would have changed much if at all. Luc, Campbell, Palone, and Pierce were very good replacements.
That isn't the point, they should of been smart enough to leave the night before just like Sears and Pierce did
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That isn't the point, they should of been smart enough to leave the night before just like Sears and Pierce did
I'm not questioning that. Personally when I trained horses and they raced more than 3-4 hours from home, they arrived a day ahead of time, even for a $3000 race.
As far as the drivers, I understand family time is important. They probably figured the airline knew the weather better than anyone else.
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they should have been there early its the breeders crown.
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They can try and deflect the blame all they want but it is there fault
for not being at Woodbine period.
They had a flight scheduled that would have gotten to Woodbine about an hour before the races begin.Everyone knew bad weather was rolling in with reports by Friday.They left themselves no outs in case anything went wrong and things do go wrong all the time.
On the biggest day purse wise in harness racing not one of these clowns thought about taking no chances and going earlier ?
I'm sorry but I'm NOT buying the weather or Airline screwed them,they screwed themselves.
That isn't the point, they should of been smart enough to leave the night before just like Sears and Pierce did
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This wasn't the Sandwich fair they missed it was one of the biggest nights
of the year for harness racing. Dopes noway shootme noway
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I'm not questioning that. Personally when I trained horses and they raced more than 3-4 hours from home, they arrived a day ahead of time, even for a $3000 race.
As far as the drivers, I understand family time is important. They probably figured the airline knew the weather better than anyone else.
I am not buying the family time part either on this occassion.This was harness racing's biggest night of the year.If family time is that important bring them along to enjoy your biggest day.
I have read posts about Campbell's wife always being in the winner's circle and have seen plenty of pics with his kids also involved.
Sorry still not buying the reason given for not being there.
I was taught early on there is NO excuse for being late short of death or being ion the hospital.
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All in all, I'm not sure the results would have changed much if at all. Luc, Campbell, Palone, and Pierce were very good replacements.
I think no Gingras on Drop the Ball made a difference.
I also think Gregory on some 2 yo who finished 2nd also made a little diiference for the worse though they both finished 2nd
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I think no Gingras on Drop the Ball made a difference.
I also think Gregory on some 2 yo who finished 2nd also made a little diiference for the worse though they both finished 2nd
thumbsup Tetrick on Handsoffmycookie is who you are thinking of and you would be correct. Gregory - Tetrick hmmm Big Difference
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i think momm possibly may have been hurt by the driver switch. not being critical of palone,he's a great driver,but as he was saying in his pre race interview,that horse was very tricky to drive.
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What was Woodbine's handle compared to previous years?
I think the term "clown" was used previously.............my thoughts? The circus still went on. 8)
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I'm a firm believer in things happening for a reason............they weren't supposed to get there plain and simple...........I can't believe anyone thinks it was an intentional plan, it was a mistake......we all make em........their punishment? The money they lost..........now it is time to move on.
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When you replace Tim Tetrick, David Miller, George Brennan, and Yannick Gingras with Dave Palone, John Campbell, Luc Oulette, and Brian Sears, you are not missing a whole lot.
I do agree though that Gregory was a bit of a stretch.
As far as MOMM, there has to be more to his retirement than meets the eye.
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Just announced back to Woodbine next year. Word is Gingras and company chartered a Friday, 10/26/2012 plane rflmao1.\
It's one thing when weather diverts a flight for a guy coming in to drive one race, like the Battle of Lake Erie, but for the richest night in the biz? I would have been in a comfy Rexdale hotel Friday night.
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Funny how J. Gregory got there when I don't think he was even listed to
drive. idunno
If I were an owner/trainer of any of them horses the guy that drove them
on B.C. night would be offered the drive next start out.
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What was Woodbine's handle compared to previous years?
I think the term "clown" was used previously.............my thoughts? The circus still went on. 8)
They handled 3.7 million compared to 2.8 million at Pocono.
The last time the Big M had the 2-3 year old races ( 8 of them) they handled 5.2 million ( it was 2008, 2009 they had the older divisions)
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Funny how J. Gregory got there when I don't think he was even listed to
drive. idunno
If I were an owner/trainer of any of them horses the guy that drove them
on B.C. night would be offered the drive next start out.
I often did that Hugh. If my regular driver one week chose off, I let the guy who drove for me drive twice, even if I didn't like the guy.
Actually fired McKirgan from ever driving another pacer for me when he chose off one of mine 21 years ago....and he is about my best friend at Northfield.
When I have one ready to win, Bruce Sturgeon can win with him. I don't need Yannick Gingras. ;D
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They can try and deflect the blame all they want but it is there fault
for not being at Woodbine period.
They had a flight scheduled that would have gotten to Woodbine about an hour before the races begin.Everyone knew bad weather was rolling in with reports by Friday.They left themselves no outs in case anything went wrong and things do go wrong all the time.
On the biggest day purse wise in harness racing not one of these clowns thought about taking no chances and going earlier ?
I'm sorry but I'm NOT buying the weather or Airline screwed them,they screwed themselves.
Couldnt of said it better tross. thumbsup
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I agree with tross
And I think Pierce stayed in Canada to hunt all week after elims and Sears was in Vernon the night before....
I even heard thar Jason Settlemore offered to drive them all up there thumbsup
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I agree with tross
And I think Pierce stayed in Canada to hunt all week after elims and Sears was in Vernon the night before....
I even heard thar Jason Settlemore offered to drive them all up there thumbsup
Actually Pierce stayed back to drive at Sudbury Downs in Ontario as a guest driver on Oct 26, which was three days before the BC.
In 9 races he won 5. The total handle at Sudbury Downs that night was $7767.
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Actually Pierce stayed back to drive at Sudbury Downs in Ontario as a guest driver on Oct 26, which was three days before the BC.
In 9 races he won 5. The total handle at Sudbury Downs that night was $7767.
That much? Just shows what having a top driver show up can do for a track. 8) 8) 8)