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Title: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Elgin on April 22, 2012, 05:45:41 PM
The Graduate eliminations begin in two weeks and Put On A Show is a nominee
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: CyberChamp on April 22, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
Looking forward to the good ones returning to M1!  (Not to knock Arch Madness, however, who has looked super!)

Would be nice to see Golden Receiver prove his worth and go up against Foiled Again.   thumbsup
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: pezz97 on April 22, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
Golden Receiver, I believe, is still a notch or 2 below these.


As for Put on a show, don't race her, she barely got up last week against a crap field, keep her against her own for now.


Alexei loves the big M , I would say it is Foiled and him in the Graduate. First over grind after being scratched sick. And David Didn't move a muscle.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: NIATROSS on April 23, 2012, 06:26:17 AM
Golden Receiver, I believe, is still a notch or 2 below these.


As for Put on a show, don't race her, she barely got up last week against a crap field, keep her against her own for now.


Alexei loves the big M , I would say it is Foiled and him in the Graduate. First over grind after being scratched sick. And David Didn't move a muscle.

Alexi was impressive.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Elgin on April 26, 2012, 04:02:39 AM
Aracache and Elmo go in the Woodbine open on Saturday.

Rockincam, OML, Meirs, Foreclosure and Powerful Mist  go in a wo25 at Pocono on Sunday.

Bettor Sweet and Fashion Delight go in wo25
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Dolfan on April 26, 2012, 03:35:29 PM
Opinions on Foiled Again are a little premature, IMO, considering that he could get roughed up pretty bad from pp 8 Saturday.  You never know how much that can take out of the horse when he's constantly bagging heads with the other top ones.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: pezz97 on April 26, 2012, 04:43:56 PM
Opinions on Foiled Again are a little premature, IMO, considering that he could get roughed up pretty bad from pp 8 Saturday.  You never know how much that can take out of the horse when he's constantly bagging heads with the other top ones.
Well he got parked in the final last year and then went on to win the Graduate. If any race was going to zap him, watch the Open on Adios day from last year! He then and went on to win his next start after that. He just never quits.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Dolfan on April 26, 2012, 09:14:01 PM
Well he got parked in the final last year and then went on to win the Graduate. If any race was going to zap him, watch the Open on Adios day from last year! He then and went on to win his next start after that. He just never quits.

He's a year older.  I'm not sure what that means to him but I know it's not getting any easier for me!  rflmao1
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Elgin on May 02, 2012, 05:00:20 AM
The good thing about the Graduate elimination, which is at M1 Saturday, is that like the Levy,  the top two horses
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Elgin on May 05, 2012, 06:07:48 AM
Bettor Sweet beat Foiled in the BC, the US Pacing Championship and the Bettor
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: LVGaryD on May 05, 2012, 06:02:20 PM
This was some kind of horse race tonight. Rockincam is some kind of sharp right now. To beat a field like this first over is a tribute to his toughness. Golden Receiver raced great too, and Foiled Again was parked the entire mile and looked great. Meirs got in road trouble, but raced very well. Still think he is a notch below this group.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Elgin on May 06, 2012, 04:11:32 PM
Gingras and Campbell both drifted out of the gate and marked time on the outside near the back of the pack. Gingras got around it by finishing third with Foiled, but Bettor Sweet was seventh.....Rockincam was really nasty. His race was similar to the brave mile Alexie went for Brennan in winning the Haughton last year.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Dolfan on May 06, 2012, 08:01:39 PM
Somehow the bettors figured this one out.  Foiled, who obviously was not trained down this week, had no early money at all & didn't fire while following the 1st over 5-2 winner.  Golden Receiver was his highest price all year & couldn't stay with the 1st over 5-2 monster.  Finally, Rockingcam, a horse who has raced & has been beaten many times at PPK (Stephen Farrell) has become this good at age 6!  Congratulations to all those sharp 5-2 handicappers.

Did I mention that Rockingcam was 5-2 while Meirs Hanover, who missed Rockingcam by a nose, was 9-1?
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: LVGaryD on May 06, 2012, 10:39:42 PM
Pretty harsh saying Foiled Again "didn't fire". I don't think very many horses in the history of harness racing have paced in 1:48.2 in the month of May after being parked the entire mile from the outside, cover or not.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: tonyb147 on May 07, 2012, 06:23:11 AM
Agree Gary. Paced a back half of 53.1 off equal 26.3 third and final quarters. It just shows how high FA has set the bar.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: pezz97 on May 07, 2012, 07:40:23 AM
Agree Gary. Paced a back half of 53.1 off equal 26.3 third and final quarters. It just shows how high FA has set the bar.
Thought it was a perfect race after racing tough in the Levy.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Dolfan on May 08, 2012, 04:55:27 PM
Pretty harsh saying Foiled Again "didn't fire". I don't think very many horses in the history of harness racing have paced in 1:48.2 in the month of May after being parked the entire mile from the outside, cover or not.

I'm not getting hung up on numbers.  Most on this board think he's the best, the fastest.  Rockincam raced 1st over to win.  When did Rockincam become such a monster?

I know I saw FA at 7-1 with a few minutes to post, finally closing at a huge (had he won) 4-1.  I doubt that he was trained as usual considering the difficult journey to the top he had in the Levy final.  Made sense to save something for the Graduate final where he will likely draw better.

Thought it was a perfect race after racing tough in the Levy.

That is the way I felt.  They couldn't have really been trying to win.  Board showed that.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Elgin on May 08, 2012, 05:13:42 PM
Following is the field, in post position order, for Saturday
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: pezz97 on May 08, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
Following is the field, in post position order, for Saturday
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: cashman on May 08, 2012, 10:48:20 PM
Youcan expext to see a ton of spped in the race with AH and AM drawing 9 and 10   they aint sitting 9th and 10th. Perfet post for FA to sit and get 2nd over trip.
Title: Re: Looking Ahead To The Graduate
Post by: Dolfan on May 09, 2012, 08:12:38 PM
Youcan expext to see a ton of spped in the race with AH and AM drawing 9 and 10   they aint sitting 9th and 10th. Perfet post for FA to sit and get 2nd over trip.

Of course you're saying that FA has to leave for position, which I agree with.  But pretty hard to predict "perfect trips" in these races.  If someone gets hung and backs up, whoever is behind him has to move too early.