Vegas strip 1987

[Wilderness]

Gary,
         Not sure if you may help or not.
I'm trying (in vain) to recall the name a hole-in the-wall joint on the strip in 87.

On the same side of the street as Flamingo and Imperial Palace, however further towards town. Ceasers was open across the street then, however only signs existed in an open field promoting the Mirage.

My recollection as follows.
On the corner (across from the former-fire-MGM) was Barberry Coast.
Next was the Flamingo
Next was Imperial Palace
Next Holiday Inn
and next was the hole in the wall joint.
You had to cross some little bridge and small pond/stream to get in the joint.

I was trying to get the dice-working-flowing and coordinating my hands with my mind (good luck with that).
Covered most every casino improving along the way.
Hit this joint in the wee hours and most of the place was empty.
About half-a-dozen guys shooting craps on on end of a table. Staff wouldn't let me join at the same end, rather made me go to the opposite and alone-end.
These guys were building up the hard-ways by adding a quarter (25-cents) at a time, in an attempt build their pocket.
They weren't too happy when I laid real cash on the table and seven-out a couple of time. Didn't stay long, and never went back.

Any idea?

[LVGaryD]

I assume that would have been the Casino Royale. That is about where it is today.

[Wilderness]

Was it perhaps called Nob Hill then?

[LVGaryD]

Was it perhaps called Nob Hill then?

Yes. The former Nob Hill casino is now known as Casino Royale.

[tonyb147]

Yes. The former Nob Hill casino is now known as Casino Royale.

Casino Royale - home of White Castle and the best Fireball shots.

 

[LVGaryD]

Casino Royale - home of White Castle and the best Fireball shots.

 

Believe it or not, I have not gone in there to get any White Castles since they opened there. I just don't like the place, plus it is so inconvenient to get to.

[Wilderness]

Yes. The former Nob Hill casino is now known as Casino Royale.

When I was there in '87, it was very small and rather dumpy. Although, I'm sure it catered to a different clientele.

However even than (perhaps still) the horse parlor at Flamingo didn't offer any video and still had the old chalk boards

[LVGaryD]

When I was there in '87, it was very small and rather dumpy. Although, I'm sure it catered to a different clientele.

However even than (perhaps still) the horse parlor at Flamingo didn't offer any video and still had the old chalk boards

That part of things has changed immensely with the advent of the information era. Great big screens, beautiful tote boards, as well as a private screen on each bettor's desk.

[tonyb147]

My first visit to Vegas was 1987. Back then The Stardust had the best sports book. Huge "state of the art" projection tv's stacked everywhere.

 

[Wilderness]

Is there anybody here that shoots craps in Vegas (frequently) that could provide some insight on table procedures?

[LVGaryD]

How about a craps dealer or supervisor? We might be able to answer your questions. 

[tonyb147]

I found this out a long time ago: When you're the shooter, do NOT play the Don't Pass.

"Shooter on the Don't" 

[Wilderness]

Is there some routine as to the times that new dice are rotated?

Twice a day, three times a day?
Specific hours?
Is there any frequency as to when the felts are replaced?
Are there any casinos that are using non-felt surfaces (i. e., vinyl)?

Are most casinos using twelve foot tables?
Are some using 14's or 16's (if so which ones)?

In Vegas, what are the rules for employee's gambling where they work?
 In the Detroit casinos' once your off the clock, your not allowed at all where you work?
 In the Northern Mich (Indian casinos-much smaller) employees are only allowed specific games (no table games except open poker), and slots.

[Wilderness]

Are there Vegas Junkets that are not generally advertised?

[Wilderness]

I found this out a long time ago: When you're the shooter, do NOT play the Don't Pass.

"Shooter on the Don't" 

That depends on how good you skill is at throwing the numbers (points) and sevens as you desire?
If you have no skill at separating the two techniques, than you've no business shooting (pass the dice).
 However the craps world is not perfect and no matter how good your technique, there are going to be time when the dice 'get away from you'.

I've seen guy make BIG money playing the DONT when new dice are rotated. Personally, I can't shoot worth a shit with new dice (even if the felt is worn out; other may though and not be any good with old dice (that have been in play)).