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The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« on: September 13, 2013, 04:43:13 AM »
y Bill Finley
The Jug didn’t get the star that race organizers wanted
but the Jugette has. I Luv The Nitelife, easily the top 3-
year-old pacing filly in North America, will start next in the
Jugette, confirms trainer Chris Ryder.
While top male pacer
Captaintreacherous is
skipping the Jug to prepare
for the Grand Circuit meet
at the Red Mile, Ryder will
do the opposite. He said
after the Jug he will give I
Luv The Nitelife a breather
and get ready for the
Breeders Crown.
Though he will start his filly at Delaware, Ryder doesn’t
exactly sound excited about it
.
“Am I a fan of Delaware? No,” he sad. “I don’t like the
heats, I don’t like how little money you go for and I don’t
like the way you are treated

. What I do like is having a
good horse and being in the big races.
“She’s eligible and we’ve made the decision to go. I don’t
like the half-mile track and I don’t like the fact that if you
get a bad post you are screwed. If you get a good post
you’re in control. But she’s do

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 05:49:20 AM »
I will go along with the treatment of horsemen at Delaware. This year, all horsemen with an OSRC badge get in free on race days though, so that is a good thing.

A large part of the mistreatment of horsemen comes from the presiding judge at Delaware. God bless Peter Wrenn. thumbsup

As far as the heat racing part, the high-test gas just doesn't work after one heat of racing. It levels the playing field and this is why I love heat racing.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 03:12:47 PM »
I will go along with the treatment of horsemen at Delaware. This year, all horsemen with an OSRC badge get in free on race days though, so that is a good thing.

A large part of the mistreatment of horsemen comes from the presiding judge at Delaware. God bless Peter Wrenn. thumbsup

As far as the heat racing part, the high-test gas just doesn't work after one heat of racing. It levels the playing field and this is why I love heat racing.
Yup, cause every good horse must be on something..... :o ::) slaphead slaphead

And on top of that, 1/2 mile racing SUCKS!!!
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 03:15:36 PM by pezz97 »

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 07:54:03 PM »
Yup, cause every good horse must be on something..... :o ::) slaphead slaphead

And on top of that, 1/2 mile racing SUCKS!!!

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 08:05:40 PM »
Half-mile racing is true harness racing. Heat racing is pure racing.

Mile track racing is purely horses going around a track. Go, go, go, till they stop-sort of like the flats.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2013, 08:43:31 AM »
Half-mile racing is true harness racing. Heat racing is pure racing.

Mile track racing is purely horses going around a track. Go, go, go, till they stop-sort of like the flats.

Mile track racing is real racing...you don't let the post draw determine the winner. Sure it can happen but doesn't happen as much as when they're running on the half mile carousels.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 11:38:22 AM »
Half-mile racing is true harness racing. Heat racing is pure racing.

Mile track racing is purely horses going around a track. Go, go, go, till they stop-sort of like the flats.

After listening to arguments on both sides for the past week, I feel that if you are going to do heat racing in a half you should limit the horses to 6 per race.  Your horse can be at its best and you have a 25% chance of drawing into a position where you barely have a chance to come out with the top prize.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 12:02:59 PM »
Half-mile racing is true harness racing. Heat racing is pure racing.

Mile track racing is purely horses going around a track. Go, go, go, till they stop-sort of like the flats.

half mile racing is so bad that if you draw the 5 hole on a half ---- you are betting against whether or not the horse is even trying....

Northfield has become unbettable for years..... Draw the outside and race for a small check or perhaps getting some money off the card so I can make a drop next start.....

Pure and simple that is what it has become

That's not racing !

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 12:47:07 PM »
Half-mile racing is true harness racing. Heat racing is pure racing.

Mile track racing is purely horses going around a track. Go, go, go, till they stop-sort of like the flats.

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Also,  thumbsup to Ryder for going to the Jugette with his star filly, showing her off & his appreciation for tradition.  Way to go, Cheech!


After listening to arguments on both sides for the past week, I feel that if you are going to do heat racing in a half you should limit the horses to 6 per race.  Your horse can be at its best and you have a 25% chance of drawing into a position where you barely have a chance to come out with the top prize.

These tracks just need to angle the gate more & get the early start, just like Maywood where pp 7 & 8 have a somewhat respectable 8.5% & 6.6 win %.  In comparison Nfld is 5.5% & 4.3%.

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 02:15:53 PM »
In my not-so-humble opinion, the idiot who came up with the passing lane should be shot. Half-mile racing was forever changed that day. This is yet another reason I love Delaware. Ohio. No passing lane. If a guy even thinks about a 30 second quarter, three guys are out running him down.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 02:24:41 PM »
Again, when it is a $1,000,000 race (and I believe it will be soon), trainers will be pushing the gates down.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2013, 02:29:40 PM »
Again, when it is a $1,000,000 race (and I believe it will be soon), trainers will be pushing the gates down.
thumbsup  It really should carry a million dollar purse very soon. Maybe within two years.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2013, 03:52:23 PM »
thumbsup  It really should carry a million dollar purse very soon. Maybe within two years.

that will do it and get many of the players in

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2013, 04:07:19 PM »
thumbsup  It really should carry a million dollar purse very soon. Maybe within two years.


That's too bad. Increase the purses elsewhere, such as horses that run in Ohio all the time.

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Re: The Jug not all lollypops and roses to some horsemen
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 04:24:35 PM »
The Jug is a premier event in harness racing. It has history, tradition and a massive following. This is what attracts the best horses and spectators... It should go for a million bucks. The over nights are the meat and potatoes but the Jug is your signature event that draws... That's where the money should go at first, than to the over nights. Just my opinion.

 

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