Barack Crushes Mitt

[Elgin]

That works legally but not politically. The juxtaposition of struggling families that are paying two or three points higher than that and Mitt sitting on his pile of money works very well for Obama during the campaign. Mitt

[Just Saying]

When Barry says that any family income over $250k is "The Filthy Rich" I always want to ask him about the $8mil he got to be the name on the cover of two ghost written books. If he believes $250k is enough for any household, why doesn't he give the other $7,750,000. to the IRS?

I think 15% capital gains tax is exactly 15% too high. You have to pay income tax on money you earn, then get taxed again if you invest it. The publics money does not belong to the politicians.

Punishing the achievers is a short road to disaster.

ps I've never made anywhere near $250k, but I don't resent how much anyone else makes.

[Danville]

Wow did Barry look bad on Libya!!!  He out and out lied about what he said in the Rose Garden the next day and that ultra-lib crowley showed her true  colors in suggesting he was right.  That should lose him the election right there. You knew Obama couldn't do as bad as the first time and the socialists and commies would claim he won with any improvment. Keep dreaming!!!  I loved it when Mitt recited a long list of broken promises from Obama and the messiah had no real answer.
I also loved it when he was asked about his energy chief's statement in support of $4 a gallon gas.  He rambled on and on but NEVER  did he disavow the statement.

Turn out the lights the party's over Barry Soheto.

My wife, who is pretty astute politically and up on current affairs, walked out of the room some five minutes after the thing started. I said "Hey, where are you going"? Her comment, paraphrased, was that she could not listen to another second of Soetoro's lies.
Since we are both from the Chicago area (Glen Ellyn) we know liars when they appear and it seems Barry hasn't out grown his adopted roots as of yet. Once a congenital liar, always a congenital liar. The troubling aspect is that he seems to believe his lies.

[Dolfan]

Candy Crowley did an outstanding job as moderator. It would be nice to see them bring her back for the third debate.

Why use a moderator at all?  Every debate should be Lincoln-Douglas style.

This person who you think did an "outstanding job" & who also has a record as being one of the very many left-wing media zealots, admitted later that she made a mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=athcyCTnTTs

Obama absolutely never said this was a "terrorist attack" until 2 weeks after the attack.  Romney was correct & Obama was caught saying "please proceed Governor" in an attempt to cover up one of many, many lies.

Elgin, you are clearly very far to the left - too far to see the middle IMO.

[Jeremy]

That works legally but not politically. The juxtaposition of struggling families that are paying two or three points higher than that and Mitt sitting on his pile of money works very well for Obama during the campaign. Mitt

[Jeremy]

I think 15% capital gains tax is exactly 15% too high. You have to pay income tax on money you earn, then get taxed again if you invest it. The publics money does not belong to the politicians.

I think you mean it is 100% too high.   

I think that 15-18% isn't bad, but any higher people will invest their money elsewhere.  When you have a lot of money it is good to pay towards things like national defense as well as infrastructure.  The problem is that the government wastes too much.

[Just Saying]

I think you mean it is 100% too high.   

I think that 15-18% isn't bad, but any higher people will invest their money elsewhere.  When you have a lot of money it is good to pay towards things like national defense as well as infrastructure.  The problem is that the government wastes too much.

If you paid 30%+ when you earned it I don't see that you should have to pay another 15% if you invest it wisely.

If the government spent ONLY on national defense and infrastructure 15% would be plenty, but they have branched way outside of their constitutional limits for many, many years.

George W Bush was just a guilty with things like the Medicare prescriptions benefit, among others. The dems went along with him, but now want to decry it. Same with the authorization for the use of force in Iraq & Afghanistan which they all voted for TWICE, and now pretend they didn't.

[Dolfan]

If you paid 30%+ when you earned it I don't see that you should have to pay another 15% if you invest it wisely.

The other thing that is rarely mentioned is that the IRS limits your losses to $3000 a year.  So if you make great decisions in 2012 & earn $20,000 in stocks you pay 15% on the $20,000.  If you lose $40,000 in 2013 you get to deduct $3000 & then carry it forward until you catch up (if ever).

[Jeremy]

The other thing that is rarely mentioned is that the IRS limits your losses to $3000 a year.  So if you make great decisions in 2012 & earn $20,000 in stocks you pay 15% on the $20,000.  If you lose $40,000 in 2013 you get to deduct $3000 & then carry it forward until you catch up (if ever).

That is why if you have losing stocks you sell them in a year you did well.

[Elgin]

I feel sorry that you folks are so blinded by right wing ideology that you can

[Jeremy]

I feel sorry that you folks are so blinded by right wing ideology that you can

[Dolfan]

I feel sorry that you folks are so blinded by right wing ideology that you can

[Elgin]

Guess if you can't win or hang in a debate, you go and just say everyone else is stupid or a right winger

Ever hear of sarcasm, Jeremy. Dah.

[pezz97]

Most of you know, i don't like either candidate. I think they both suck. But the ONLY way this country will ever get back to what it is supposed to be, is when ALL of the people actually vote for the best candidate and not what letter they represent. JMO but there are way to many people in this country now that say my way is the right way and the other way is wrong ( either way) and when it is that way, well we have what we have now. If neither party ever works with the other, no matter who is president, we will still be taking about the same shit over and over again. There are just more republicans on this site so if Romney wins, they will say he is doing a great job and if he loses, well then those are planning to leave the country.

Both sides, no matter what need to work together or it doesn't matter no matter how much you type on your keyboard....

[careless hal]

Both sides, no matter what need to work together or it doesn't matter no matter how much you type on your keyboard

100% correct.    That is why I am so alarmed at Barry.  When he had 100% control, he refused to accept any Republican or any other party input.  Some Presidents,such as W may have gone too far in accepting opposition input.  (Then when the suggestions failed, HE was blamed for it by the very people who gave him the input)  Guys like Clinton were more successful because they did work better with the other party.
I absolutely hate Obama and am not a huge Mitt fan.  But, I'll have to vote for Mitt because he has shown that he can work effectively with the other party.  Obama has shown my way or the highway!! And, I think his way sucks.