Peter Foley On Scratching Duer and Changing Jug Format

[dinkadoo]

THen why did you enter in the first place ?

Did you get to the track and then were shocked to see they ran the jug in heats ?

While your busy patting yourself on the back about other trainers telling how great of a guy you are, why don't you find out whats wrong with DUER. That performance last night at the Red Mile should put a bigger alarms than your worries about the 2nd heat.

[beans and weenies]

I agree Dink.   I also think our horses are being bred for speed and conformation is so much better but  along the way we are losing thier stamina that they were once known for.  Most  of these standardbreds look like thorobreds.  they are big and beautiful but the raw boned strength is only in a few.  heat racing will soon be gone because in a long 3 yr old campaign they just cannot finish the year in the top form they started in no matter how great the trainer is or how great the horse is. Fans are pissed horses are not going 2 heats or missing big races but racing these good horses for weeks in a row just is not working anymore. You have to pick your spots and the good horsemen are doing just that.

[dinkadoo]

I agree Dink.   I also think our horses are being bred for speed and conformation is so much better but  along the way we are losing thier stamina that they were once known for.  Most  of these standardbreds look like thorobreds.  they are big and beautiful but the raw boned strength is only in a few.  heat racing will soon be gone because in a long 3 yr old campaign they just cannot finish the year in the top form they started in no matter how great the trainer is or how great the horse is. Fans are pissed horses are not going 2 heats or missing big races but racing these good horses for weeks in a row just is not working anymore. You have to pick your spots and the good horsemen are doing just that.

Agree with the stamina thing
Breeding /training / chemicals,,,, geared for fast fast fast

times being what they are now, but 15-20 years ago would you have heard of a top notch trainer going a training trip in 49 and change on a horse before a big race ? ( granted whatever the comparable time would have been 20 years ago )

Not saying things were done better back then, but it was different..... Does anyone ever train a double header anymore ?

[beans and weenies]

Double Headers?  very rarely.  only on an older horse and usually i'm mad at the horse.   

[LB46]

Casie's horse has done it twice this year and she isn't bitching, quit whining about it just don't enter if you don't like it. 

[pezz97]

Casie's horse has done it twice this year and she isn't bitching, quit whining about it just don't enter if you don't like it.

[Elgin]

Bolt The Duer has blown his chance to win the division, but CMO is almost a sure bet to win her division and she

[LVGaryD]

Would you snub her because she's bowing out of the filly Futurity after one round?

Absolutely. She can consider herself snubbed by the writers of In The Sulky. 

[pezz97]

IMO, Check me out jumped it off in her biggest race of the year and is only going to go 1 heat in the futurity. She has ZERO chance to win horse of the year.

As Long as the Captain doesn't lose the rest of the year, he will win. Cheddar is the best horse in training, but has missed to many big races to be considered horse of the year.

[The Giss]

FWIW, I vote for HOTY and neither she nor Bolt will get my votes.

[Just Saying]

FWIW, I vote for HOTY and neither she nor Bolt will get my votes.

If I had a vote, netiher of them would get mine.

[LVGaryD]

FWIW, I vote for HOTY and neither she nor Bolt will get my votes.

[tonyb147]

FWIW, I vote for HOTY and neither she nor Bolt will get my votes.

Do you mean HOTY overall or just divisional champ? In Bolt's case he's not even best in his division. Tough call for top 3yr old male pacer but give me Thinking Out Loud in a close vote over ARocknroll Dance.

[dennycrane]

i believe pete's choice to scratch would have held much more water if he had won his heat and had the rail in the next heat

[Dolfan]

Do you mean HOTY overall or just divisional champ? In Bolt's case he's not even best in his division. Tough call for top 3yr old male pacer but give me Thinking Out Loud in a close vote over ARocknroll Dance.

Whoever wins the Breeders Crown.