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Re: Pena Suspended
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2012, 11:08:12 AM »
Oh they're railroading him, no doubt.... But I seriously doubt it's the legal drugs that made Pena's horses unbeatable. The ones that would jump up several classes, sit outside first over and drive away easily... As I mentioned in a previous post, I'd say that he is using something they haven't developed a test for yet. He's a career .190 trainer at a weak weak track. Than he's winning at 35% overnight? Come on...


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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2012, 11:28:10 AM »
Poor guy was most likely using some holistic substance to improve their performance.  HArd work, classifying them right, proper shoeing and TLC.. that's his secret.  Hey, I just bougth the Brooklyn Bridge from some guy on the street for $100!  What a steal!! 8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2012, 11:34:26 AM »
The Manny Ramirez suspension offers a good example of the way a sport can bust a participant even though they have no smoking gun. The only reason HCG is on MLB's banned list is that it is used in concert with steroids. The drug itself certainly wouldn

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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 12:31:30 PM »
Oh they're railroading him, no doubt.... But I seriously doubt it's the legal drugs that made Pena's horses unbeatable. The ones that would jump up several classes, sit outside first over and drive away easily... As I mentioned in a previous post, I'd say that he is using something they haven't developed a test for yet. He's a career .190 trainer at a weak weak track. Than he's winning at 35% overnight? Come on...


Your right he's obviously using something other than legal substances that he gave hours out....the reasoning and people calling these positives is what I'm talking about

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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 04:14:30 PM »
I've been around the harness biz for many decades. Common sense tells me that nobody is 4 secs. better than the best trainers in the business. I have drastically improved some by figuring out what the problem was. But improving every one every time doesn't happen... especially when you get them from good trainers. It'll come out eventually.

I just hate to see racing get another black eye.
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Re: Pena Suspended
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2012, 04:15:27 AM »
Pena:

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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2012, 05:59:24 AM »
I hope he doesn't say anything and lets his lawyers talk.........not for his sake........but for ours.  slaphead

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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2012, 11:26:55 AM »
Duane Ranger, editor of Harnesslink, is the one who published Anrew Cohen

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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2012, 01:09:38 PM »
I wish they would say what all those drugs are used for.  Looking some of them up I still didn't know.

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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2012, 02:18:15 PM »
So Mark Ford basically thinks Pena is too cocky?


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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2012, 02:18:44 PM »
There isn't anything "f-ing" funny about this.  >:(

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2012, 02:21:17 PM »
I wish they would say what all those drugs are used for.  Looking some of them up I still didn't know.

I'm going to print up the list and try to wrestle a few minutes with one of our vets tomorrow.......most of them we know a few we don't.......a lot of the hormones are used to keep a horse eating for example.

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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2012, 06:45:48 PM »
maybe this explains some of his meds,,,


Steroids mask EPO

Smith and Dr. Cornelius Uboh, director of the University of Pennsylvania's Equine Toxicology and Research Lab, said EPO shouldn't be used on horses.

Many "chemists," as clean horsemen call them, give horses "cocktails" of various steroids to mask the EPO in the animal's system. It's easy. Smith said the steroids can exit the system as quickly as 24 hours. Just the EPO, alone, can risk a horse's life.

"EPO is an illegal substance and I've made it very clear that it shouldn't be used on horses," Uboh says. "EPO is not meant for a horse and you have to remember, it's a single animal. It may kill the horse."

According to Dr. Scott Waterman, executive director of The Racing and Medication and Testing Consortium, a group that develops model drug policies for the industry, a horse on EPO can stop making red blood cells.

That leads to a breakdown in the immune system and the animal can develop aplastic anemia. The racing condition of the horse deteriorates and, ultimately, "crashes" and could die if not nursed back to health.

"The blood often becomes way out of whack and turns into sludge," Waterman says. "The heart can't pump its blood and it could end up having a heart attack."

Renowned in the industry, Uboh has developed a test that can effectively identify Epogen in horses by identifying signature peptides, which are the products of the protein found in EPO. But the test costs $1,500 to administer and the Racing and Wagering Board doesn't have the finances or manpower to travel the state to test horses.

 

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