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Title: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: careless hal on October 21, 2011, 03:24:49 AM
http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=93323

Interview with his latest wife, Luann Case, former wifre of Jeff Kroninger.
I know Jeff was injured awhile back in a spill.  Did he ever return to driving?
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: NIATROSS on October 21, 2011, 07:54:03 AM
IMO Case does not deserve to be back in the sulky anywhere.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Maniac on October 21, 2011, 08:29:34 AM
Niatross,
 I respect your opinion, but he has done his sentence and IMO everybody deserves another chance. We have athletes in the NFL, NBA and even college who have been given another chance. even Herve was allowed back.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Hugh Jass on October 21, 2011, 01:06:49 PM

I don't like what he did or how he acted one little bit but he has done his time and

will have to answer to the good Lord above. IMO he should have a chance to earn

a living and hopefully help younger guys coming up sharing his experiences and

setting a shining example, if he screws up then toss his ass to the curb pronto !
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: NIATROSS on October 21, 2011, 01:25:47 PM
IMO allowing Case back in the sulky speaks loudly into the lack of integrity in racing.He is a convicted felon and in some jobs you just cannot be hired.I think Jocks and Drivers should be among them
Case had mutiple violations ON THE TRACK in multiple states and ran away from them.Putting him back in the bike puts everyone else at risk inclduing the bettors.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: LVGaryD on October 21, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
IMO allowing Case back in the sulky speaks loudly into the lack of integrity in racing.He is a convicted felon and in some jobs you just cannot be hired.I think Jocks and Drivers should be among them
Case had mutiple violations ON THE TRACK in multiple states and ran away from them.Putting him back in the bike puts everyone else at risk inclduing the bettors.
I don't know that he really ran away from all of them. The commissions knew where to find him.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: NIATROSS on October 21, 2011, 04:13:52 PM
I don't know that he really ran away from all of them. The commissions knew where to find him.

I wonder if all the horses he kicked in Ohio would welcome him back.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: LVGaryD on October 21, 2011, 04:56:18 PM
I think they would be unanimous: bring back Walter and ban the whip.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Maniac on October 21, 2011, 06:29:39 PM
Gary I agree with you, I had rather see them get kicked and throw the whips away
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: tonyb147 on October 21, 2011, 06:40:23 PM
Who is Water Case?  idunno
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: beans and weenies on October 21, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
They let all offenders back sooner or later.  Is Walter any worse than some of them.  Not really. He is a talented driver for sure.  His biggest mistakes were not made on the track but in his personal life.  so I have to lean toward letting him back on the track. what the hell. will he stay clean?  only time will tell. but he sure can drive the hell out of anything he has between the shafts.  I hope he has conquered his demons for his sake.   we will soon see.  one thing for sure.  he is getting too old to keep starting over and over.  this may very well be his last hurrah whatever it may be.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: TW on October 21, 2011, 08:37:59 PM
I'd love to see him drive again.  Hope he makes it back and keeps his life in order.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Just Saying on October 21, 2011, 09:23:04 PM
Case is one of the best to ever drive a horse, and is also a trainwreck in his personal life. I'm not quite sure how anyone could choose to live with him with the thought of getting stabbed with a steak knife.

As for his kicking violations: almost all were him brushing his foot on the horses hock at high speeds, not actually kicking the horse. I would much rather be kicked in the ass than cut with a whip.

I got fined under the kicking rule once at Blmpk. I took a last minute catch-drive when the driver didn't show. My little stubby legs couldn't reach both stirrups on the bike he was hitched to, so I got a toe-hold with one foot and put the other on the fork of the bike.(a trick I learned driving at the fairs when the owners furnished their own bikes) I was told to call the judges when I came off the track, and informed that I was fined for having my feet out of the stirrups, so I was charged with a kicking violation. I've never kicked a horse in a race in my life.

But... Case had been in trouble for the hock-brushing tactic many times and still refused to let it go. He was asking for all the fines. I truly hope he can hold his life together and overcome his demons. But I have too be skeptical.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: careless hal on October 22, 2011, 05:51:11 AM
My little stubby legs couldn't reach both stirrups on the bike he was hitched to, so I got a toe

And...you are taller than Pezz!!!! rflmao1
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: The Giss on October 22, 2011, 10:40:32 AM
My little stubby legs couldn't reach both stirrups on the bike he was hitched to, so I got a toe

And...you are taller than Pezz!!!! rflmao1

Happened to me at Leb in a Billings race (although the judges never saw it) Driving one of Virgil's and his guys had no racebikes there, so I borrow Bret Miller's. Bret is only a bit taller than me, but man does he have long legs. I get the top and the little rat ( Y L Face a Face) starts stalling at the half. Not only are my toes barely tocuhing the stirrups, but I can't get the freaking earplugs out either. Looks like I kicked the horse about six times right at the half.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Just Saying on October 22, 2011, 12:55:48 PM
My little stubby legs couldn't reach both stirrups on the bike he was hitched to, so I got a toe

And...you are taller than Pezz!!!! rflmao1
You could put Pezz on my shoulders and we still wouldn't make a tall man.
 rflmao1
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: UPPER FILLY on October 22, 2011, 08:22:53 PM
Who is Water Case?  idunno

 rflmao1 idunno
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: caveman on October 22, 2011, 09:05:22 PM
The man has paid up.....but.....the next time is Life.......the Chamber......or .......the Chair redrose
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Jeremy on October 24, 2011, 10:16:30 AM
I thought he accepted a lifetime ban, or was that just in Ohio ?
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Jeremy on October 24, 2011, 12:19:18 PM
Lifetime bans are temporary in Harness racing

That didn't answer my question.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: beans and weenies on October 24, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
was hitched to, so I got a toe-hold with one foot and put the other on the fork of the bike.(a trick I learned driving at the fairs when the owners furnished their own bikes)

LOL  Remember those days so well. I drove  with my feet on the fork more than in the stirrups LOL
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Just Saying on October 25, 2011, 09:17:16 AM
When will these Case threads ever end. Pa will not liscense him.
Why discuss him at all at this point. Makes very little sense
Well let's see:
Some posters get pissy about anything political and want posts only about harness racing. (although their own posts often concern non-racing subjects)

So now we have a poster who doesn't want posts about harness drivers discussed.

Hell, let's just discuss my recipe for Perfect Oven-baked Porkchops!
Maybe we can get the recipe for Devilied Eggs to Die For.

I never new that Gary had so many co-owners.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: newandimproved on October 25, 2011, 09:20:45 AM
Well let's see:
Some posters get pissy about anything political and want posts only about harness racing. (although their own posts often concern non-racing subjects)

So now we have a poster who doesn't want posts about harness drivers discussed.

Hell, let's just discuss my recipe for Perfect Oven-baked Porkchops!
Maybe we can get the recipe for Devilied Eggs to Die For.

I never new that Gary had so many co-owners.
Well said JS  Well said  thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: careless hal on October 25, 2011, 11:16:18 AM
I'm not listing my pierogi recipe not matter what anyone says!! 8) 8) 8)
As for Case, I don't give a flying f**k if he drives again or not.  However, I wouldn't be so sure that some state won't let him race.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: newandimproved on October 25, 2011, 11:22:38 AM
I'm not listing my pierogi recipe not matter what anyone says!! 8) 8) 8)
As for Case, I don't give a flying f**k if he drives again or not.  However, I wouldn't be so sure that some state won't let him race.
My kind of town Chicago is my kind of town...Could easily be one to do so.  rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: newandimproved on October 25, 2011, 11:23:41 AM
Devilled eggs to die for ? Huh ?
Case isnt driving again, so its a waste of space. The Pa board wont liscense him (as they have stated) and neither will anyone else. So whats the point ?
Hey, enjoy those eggs
"and neither will anyone else."  don't be so sure laddie don't be so sure. If eggs are not your cup of tea, maybe an Italian Beef Sandwich would help take the burr out from under your ass.
Doubt he nor anyone else could get a "liscense".  Now a license could be doable.  rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: AmyHollar on October 25, 2011, 01:42:33 PM
I always add cinnamon to my chili.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: careless hal on October 25, 2011, 01:54:13 PM
I always add cinnamon to my chili.

I always add cinnamon to any kind of stew I make!!  I got that secret from watching Rachel Ray.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: beans and weenies on October 25, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
Cinnamon ?  nice derail.    haven't tried it but I will
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Just Saying on October 25, 2011, 08:36:50 PM
Devilled eggs to die for ? Huh ?
Case isnt driving again, so its a waste of space. The Pa board wont liscense him (as they have stated) and neither will anyone else. So whats the point ?
Hey, enjoy those eggs
You're the only one who knows who Water Case is, so you are wasting space. ... however, Walter Case is a different story.

Gotta go, I smell my eggs boiling. rflmao1
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Jeremy on October 26, 2011, 07:41:08 AM
Time to get a life. The man has driven 6 races in 10 years and on you go blabbing.
Nice way to spend your time. Pa wanst no part of him and have made that clear. NY and NJ laughed  about this
Is there a more boring topic than this ? The stabber wont even be at Plainridge---Mass. said a clear "no' on Thursday
Get the facts Mr Deviled Eggs. He isnt driving anywhere , ever. Fact

Hope this site picks up.Or is is going to be all Case all the time

there is only 1 thread about the guy, same number as chaz bono, I don't think you have to worry about it being all case all the time
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Just Saying on October 26, 2011, 07:48:56 AM
I must be some kind of a genius: I have figured how to not click on anything I don't want to read.

I must be truly gifted. 8)
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: AmyHollar on October 26, 2011, 07:50:22 AM
And I have now added cinnamon to nearly every dish I make...........my gifts are also of an astounding nature.   
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: The Giss on October 26, 2011, 08:06:58 AM
I always add cinnamon to my chili.

So you just pour it from the Skyline container in to the pot?
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: careless hal on October 26, 2011, 08:44:06 AM
And I have now added cinnamon to nearly every dish I make...........my gifts are also of an astounding nature.

I tossed it in a lot of stuff too!!! Our secret is out!  I would like to get to thank Rachel in person. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: Hugh Jass on October 26, 2011, 09:08:59 AM
You're the only one who knows who Water Case is, so you are wasting space. ... however, Walter Case is a different story.

Gotta go, I smell my eggs boiling. rflmao1

Seriously tho, I need that pork chop recipe !
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: AmyHollar on October 26, 2011, 09:33:13 AM
So you just pour it from the Skyline container in to the pot?


You are off my Christmas card list.
Title: Re: Water Case To Return Soon?
Post by: The Giss on October 26, 2011, 09:38:07 AM

You are off my Christmas card list.

Still? rflmao1