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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: LVGaryD on November 16, 2012, 01:47:33 PM

Title: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: LVGaryD on November 16, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
I've been around this game since 1969 and thought I had seen it all until today.

Some dumbass thought he could race the wrong horse in a stake race in Maryland and get away with it?  dorkusinterruptus idunno

And you guys at Northfield STFU on the track!  hammerhead1

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: jordanjacob on November 16, 2012, 05:53:09 PM
when I read the fines and suspensions today I was stunned
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: pezz97 on November 16, 2012, 06:45:59 PM
I've been around this game since 1969 and thought I had seen it all until today.

Some dumbass thought he could race the wrong horse in a stake race in Maryland and get away with it?  dorkusinterruptus idunno

And you guys at Northfield STFU on the track!  hammerhead1

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Not once but twice??? WTF???
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on November 16, 2012, 10:50:55 PM
It happened 3 or 4 months ago.

And they ALWAYS get caught.

It was not done to defraud the public. There were only 3 horses in the race and when they couldnt get thier one qualified they put the other in.

Its actually a sad story when it gets to that point.  4pezz2 4pezz2 4pezz2 4pezz2 4pezz2

For the qualifier they swapped out after the identifier.

The RIGHT horse did race in the MD SS.

Apparenly some Magnum PI ( Gary ?) Took the time to compare tape and the horses had different markings.


Thank god this was non betting or the bettors would be in an uproar.

5 year suspension seems right.

Just for the stupidity of it all maybe lifetime though.
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: dennycrane on November 18, 2012, 07:21:21 AM
its happened more than once ...not so much now but quite often a few years back.  a guy would put tin a ringer to qual  and then send a shit horse trough the sale with the lines from the ringer
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: careless hal on November 18, 2012, 07:51:29 AM
The spin stops here. LVGD is looking out for us. thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: Just Saying on November 18, 2012, 06:10:08 PM
Here in IL you might be able to pull that scam at a county fair, but at the parimutual tracks there's always been an identifier that checks the lip tattoo or freeze brand prior to racing.

I've seen very honest trainers with big stables scratched and fined when a groom took the wrong horse to the paddock/detention barn. It'll happen with new help, but it always gets caught.

If it's intentional burn their ass. Integrity is everything.
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: dinkadoo on November 18, 2012, 07:03:15 PM
wasnt a stakes race but happened at Scioto in a race I was in. Switched and 8 claimer with 3 claimer. They were in back to back races and they kept the dead horse on the back wall after he raced. After they won my race with the 8 claimer ( Naturally I had a 3 claimer ) They tried to switch the horses while on the back wall. Got caught. Janet Essig got a suspension for not catching it while on the track. I got a check about 4 months later for the difference. Wrote a letter to the OSRC on behalf of J Essig.
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: dennycrane on November 20, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
couple of years ago at tioga a cheap horse that raced in an early race was put outside the paddock in the tent area and a groom from a later race (the open ) grabbed the horse that just raced earlier and brought him back into the paddock ..warmed him aup and raced him....and the general manager there is now the gm at the big m...so anything is possible.  one more thing..to just saying..we have identifiers here in ny also..that isnot just an ill thing!!
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: Just Saying on November 20, 2012, 03:27:11 PM
  one more thing..to just saying..we have identifiers here in ny also..that isnot just an ill thing!!
DC, I've never raced in NY, but I'm sure their security system is much the same. Also, here if you win or get 'specialed' you go to the spitbox for a urine test. Then 90 minutes later they draw blood to check for both drugs and Co2 level. Each time they check the tattoo number. So each winning horse's tattoo is checked a minimum of 3 times.
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: The Skipper on November 20, 2012, 05:44:20 PM
DC, I've never raced in NY, but I'm sure their security system is much the same. Also, here if you win or get 'specialed' you go to the spitbox for a urine test. Then 90 minutes later they draw blood to check for both drugs and Co2 level. Each time they check the tattoo number. So each winning horse's tattoo is checked a minimum of 3 times.
Tattoo ? I think you just like saying that cause he is one of the few you're taller than. "Boss De Plane"
Title: Re: USTA fines and suspensions
Post by: Just Saying on November 21, 2012, 10:29:48 AM
Tattoo ? I think you just like saying that cause he is one of the few you're taller than. "Boss De Plane"
HEY! Midgets have feelings too. :'(

Don't make me sic the real boss on you, Boy!  ...shut up and load the trailer.