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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: NIATROSS on September 25, 2012, 06:34:07 AM
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shame on the nfl it is time for the replacemet refs to go back to foot locker as i read elsewhere
shame on the nfl the nhl and other dumb employers
asking your employees to take about a 25% cut in pay like the nhl during a time of prosperity is just plain stupid imo
this is not a business where the talent level is in surplus
there were plenty of times in over 30 yrs where i supervised up to and over 100 employees at once and there were plenty of times i asked to forgo a raise or gave of my own pocket to make sure those who deserved got what they deserved
the nfl in an effort to cut the refs pay no matter what they are trying to call it is a farce
raking in billions in net revenue and trying to save thousands is a joke
i have been reading that over 200 million $$$ was lost on last night's bad call any money made in cutting the refs pay will cover what the nfl has lost to it's rep
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The NFL is in so deep on this thing that they don
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Wow! Even as a Bears fan, I feel for you Niatross and the rest of the Packers faithful as well. Tough pill to swallow. Can't really blame the interim refs...for them its a opportunity to do something they otherwise might not be able to do. Blame the NFL brass.
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Sad thing is even if they get the deal done this week gonna take another week possibly two weeks for the regular refs to come back. With physicals and them getting fitted for new uniforms since i think Nfl with nike now. So long reebok.
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The only way you can do something is stop watching or talking about the NFL.
When this costs them money it will be noticed.
Until it hits them in the wallet they wont care.
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now i amreally pissed
i thought i won a weekly pool regardless of the putcome before the game now find i just finished 2nd
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Oh, the NFL is playing? Didn't realiize. I am not watching with the scab refs.
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Can't really blame the interim refs
Really? Are you saying that being a totally incompetent moron is acceptable in any line of work? Your standards are pretty low.
now i amreally pissed
i thought i won a weekly pool regardless of the putcome before the game now find i just finished 2nd
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Put these 4th quarter gifts together:
1 - "Roughing the passer" on the interception that would've sealed it.
2 - 32 yard Pass interference penalty on 2nd & 30(?) that was clearly offensive PI.
3 - Ignoring the offensive PI in the end zone.
4 - Ignoring the only official who got it right.
5 - Reviewing the play & coming to that home-field decision.
That's too many horrendous calls in favor of one team. I would not rule out the possibility that one or more of the refs either had a bet on the game or was a Seahawks fan.
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Even with regular refs I think there is plenty of crooked hi-kinks going on. The regulars are just so much more professional about it. Basketball season will start soon. rflmao1
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No, I'm not saying being a incompetent moron is acceptable. I:m just saying these fellas got a chance to do something in life that most can only dream about. They and their employers evidently believed them competent enough. They blew it, Packers were robbed and what more can one say? I have to think they feel bad about it now. If not, then they are indeed incompetent morons as stated.
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NFL fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs' lockout is settled soon. -bo
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Just read that the ball they used for the Packers' 2 point try was a "kicking ball", one of the new, slick ones. Rodgers said "it would've been nice if they had given me a game ball to use". Not a real excuse but when you are used to one thing & all of a sudden that changes, it can throw you off.
Anyway, now Peyton, Brady & Rodgers are all 1-2. Brees is 0-3. idunno
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I do not completely blame these officials because they are being asked to do something that they just are not prepared or good enough to do. I believe that most of the blame falls on the NFL and the owners. Who in their right mind thought that NCAA Division II, Division III and NAIA officials would be be able to handle officiating the best players in the world? I do not understand why a deal was not made with the NCAA to allow the Big 10, SEC, Big 12 etc, to officiate these games until the regulars were back. I am not saying that they would be as good as they regular officials but they surely wouldn't be as bad as these guys are. Even the regulars miss calls but they do not miss that call last night. To me, its not even about the missed calls as much as it is the lack of control they have over the game, they have zero control of these games and its ruining the product on the field.
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I do not completely blame these officials because they are being asked to do something that they just are not prepared or good enough to do. I believe that most of the blame falls on the NFL and the owners. Who in their right mind thought that NCAA Division II, Division III and NAIA officials would be be able to handle officiating the best players in the world? I do not understand why a deal was not made with the NCAA to allow the Big 10, SEC, Big 12 etc, to officiate these games until the regulars were back. I am not saying that they would be as good as they regular officials but they surely wouldn't be as bad as these guys are. Even the regulars miss calls but they do not miss that call last night. To me, its not even about the missed calls as much as it is the lack of control they have over the game, they have zero control of these games and its ruining the product on the field.
The Current NCAA refs told the NFL they would not do the games. Some want to eventually make the jump to the NFL, and didn't want to be replacements refs and then never get accepted by the regular officials.
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The Current NCAA refs told the NFL they would not do the games. Some want to eventually make the jump to the NFL, and didn't want to be replacements refs and then never get accepted by the regular officials.
I did not know that, thanks for the information Pezz.
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If Green Bay played a good game it wouldn't have came down to a hail Mary.
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If Green Bay played a good game it wouldn't have came down to a hail Mary.
That is not the point AMY! They played well enough to win, and they got robbed.
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On a radio show I heard today it was pointed out the replay official was not a "replacement" ref.
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On a radio show I heard today it was pointed out the replay official was not a "replacement" ref.
Correct, they are separate from the on field officials. When the on field official goes under the hood, HE makes the final decision, not the replay official. All the replay official can do for the replacements ref's is try to guide them. He has no decision making on the play
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Russell Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks, the first player in the NFL to win a game for his team by throwing the game winning interception
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Russell Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks, the first player in the NFL to win a game for his team by throwing the game winning interception
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Russell Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks, the first player in the NFL to win a game for his team by throwing the game winning interception
Somebody watches sportscenter! rflmao1
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Somebody watches sportscenter! rflmao1
Yep the inacturrate reception.
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learn the game unknown
pretty much everyone knew the score and the rules except you
the defensive team cannot score on a blocked / failed extra pt attempt / have you ever seen it happen ?
in the future learn the game and the rules laddie before making comments that make you look like an arsehole in the end
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Rick, what can be done for my lumbago?
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learn the game unknown
pretty much everyone knew the score and the rules except you
the defensive team cannot score on a blocked / failed extra pt attempt / have you ever seen it happen ?
in the future learn the game and the rules laddie before making comments that make you look like an arsehole in the end
Only in College is that allowed, but not in the NFL!
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If this thing isn
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The division 1 referees will not do it. That is why you have what you have now.
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The division 1 referees will not do it. That is why you have what you have now.
I'm talking about permanent jobs--not temporary--as in busting the union.
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NFL's most obvious admission: The lockout/strike is over. They're scrambling, trying to get the "real" officials back on the field this week.
Side note: Phil Luckett was the Replay Official, overseeing the calls and said he "didn't see enough to convince" him to change the ruling Monday night. Same Phil Luckett who is credited with calling a non-touchdown by Vinnie Testaverde, a touchdown which brought back Replays. Also same Luckett who heard Jerome Bettis incorrectly on a coin toss which led the Lions to victory over the Steelers & eventually led league to call "heads or tails" in advance.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8427652/locked-nfl-referees-return-early-week-sources
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Can someone tell me what the refs make per game, and what they're holding out for? I have no idea. I do know that the top level ones are way better than the subs... but that's in every profession.
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Can someone tell me what the refs make per game, and what they're holding out for? I have no idea. I do know that the top level ones are way better than the subs... but that's in every profession.
From what I've read, they make $150,000 - $175,000 per season & fly 1st class. Additionally, there is apparently a pretty comfortable retirement plan.
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From what I've read, they make $150,000 - $175,000 per season & fly 1st class. Additionally, there is apparently a pretty comfortable retirement plan.
My brother is a superintendent at a large construction company. A few years ago he ran a job where an NFL ref was working as a carpenter. He didn't know the guy was a ref until he asked for a day off. He was working the Thanksgiving game in Detroit and the league required him to be there by noon Wednesday for meetings etc.
The figure above seems high IMO given that most refs have other jobs. I'm sure you can Google to find out. There is also likely to be a mention of the wages on the news now that they have settled.
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Compensation for the officials will increase from an average of $149,000 a year in 2011, to $173,000 in 2013, and capping at an average of $205,000 by 2019.
Yikes! Where do I sign up? idunno
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bowdown bowdown Yeah, at least if there is a blown call tonight, it will be made by the professionals.
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bowdown bowdown Yeah, at least if there is a blown call tonight, it will be made by the professionals.
Hey pezz, the Clownies need A LOT of BLOWN CALLS to win that game tonight!!! BRING BACK THE SCAB REF'S rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 On another note, heard from one of Cleveland's news stations that some Vegas books were giving the money back to anyone that bet GB. THAT TAKES THE CAKE!! so they HAD to settle.!
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The refs should get around $200,000 per year. If people are worried that horsemen will cheat because the purse is far below what they can win at the windows, I would worried about a ref making a few grand per game where one close call means millions of dollars are changing hands.
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The only casino I read about that was returning money to Packers backers was The D Las Vegas. I have lived in Las Vegas for 21 years and today is the first time I ever even heard of The D Las Vegas casino.
idunno rflmao1
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from the start i never saw what the refs may have wanted
all i read was the league put out a plan that was going to cut their pay and pensions
imo the owners once again looked like assholes kinda like rahm emmanuel in the teachers strike
welcome back refs !
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from the start i never saw what the refs may have wanted
all i read was the league put out a plan that was going to cut their pay and pensions
imo the owners once again looked like assholes kinda like rahm emmanuel in the teachers strike
welcome back refs !
No No bring back the SCAB'S!! At least for tonight's game!! rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
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The only casino I read about that was returning money to Packers backers was The D Las Vegas. I have lived in Las Vegas for 21 years and today is the first time I ever even heard of The D Las Vegas casino.
idunno rflmao1
its the old fitzgeralds and they couldn't have taken a lot of money on the game.
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its the old fitzgeralds and they couldn't have taken a lot of money on the game.
thumbsup Well then I have gambled there unsuccessfully many times. 4pezz2
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