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Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« on: December 30, 2011, 11:06:10 PM »
http://www.harnessracingupdate.com/restricted/pdf/hru/hru123111.pdf

Has to get OK from NJ first.  But, it looks like we may well see him in action at the Big M soon. If we do, I would not expect him to crack the top 5, but we don't know what other drivers will be there or not.

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 11:28:04 PM »
Not sure why trainers aren't allowed in based on speculation but drivers that accepted a lifetime ban (at least in Ohio...I don't know the full story) and attempted to murder someone are fine to race there.

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2011, 01:31:15 PM »
Good.  he did the crime, he did the time, now give the guy a chance.  Walter was a driving God at one point.  Maybe he can come back and do some good.  Hope he makes it.

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2011, 01:34:12 PM »
Not sure why trainers aren't allowed in based on speculation but drivers that accepted a lifetime ban (at least in Ohio...I don't know the full story) and attempted to murder someone are fine to race there.

And others who Ohio tracks chose not to do business with over race-fixing and gambling.
It's Mr. Gural's track...he can welcome whoever he wants.

(But plus + about a million, Jeremy)

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2011, 05:01:19 PM »
I applaud Mr. Gural for allowing Walter Case Jr. to ply the only trade he knows at the Big M. Walter is universally known as one of the best ever to don a set of colors, he has paid his debt to society, why should he not be allowed to drive there?

Let's face it, Northfield is the most hypocritical and phoniest track in America. They got rid of Jimmy Pantaleano, Randy Tharps, and Dave Hawk. Wow, that just makes me all warm and fuzzy knowing who is still racing there under the guise of many different trainers.

Hell Carl Milstein himself was a convicted felon, yet was later the most loyal, shrewd racetrack operator in Ohio. Sadly, loyalty was one trait he did not pass on in his genes.

In my way of looking at the Case situation, here is a chance to prove that a junkie and a convicted felon can be rehabilitated and return to glory, one hell of a p.r. angle!!! 

In The Sulky management wishes nothing but the best for Walter! bowdown

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2011, 05:40:46 PM »
knowing who is still racing there under the guise of many different trainers.




Wha-Wha-WHAT?!  :o

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2011, 08:41:01 PM »
What's the over/under on what date Walter screws up again! bowdown

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2011, 09:33:24 PM »


In my way of looking at the Case situation, here is a chance to prove that a junkie and a convicted felon can be rehabilitated and return to glory, one hell of a p.r. angle!!! 


yeah everyone roots for a guy that stabbed his ex wife and used to kick horses.

yes I know he kicked them during the race and not in anger but who outside the racing would know that?

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2011, 11:19:49 PM »
I think its great! i agree with TW, he did the crime and the time so whats the problem?  Nobodys perfect i dont care who they are and people deserve chances to prove they have changed.  Now its a different story if repeat offenders and i dont know walter personally or his story except what i heard about him.  I never got the chance to see him drive so from what i hear what he used to do it could be an interesting meet.

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2012, 03:16:40 AM »
Walter was one of the best small track drivers period. It would be amazing if he could regain anything like his old form.  I saw a lot of races in his brief return at Plainridge.  Looked like he was in pretty good form there.  We will see if he can now handle the Big M. I will leave it to others to determine whether he deserves another chance.  Not all of the drivers at the Big M have had pristine pasts. If race fixers can be given another chance, I guess he can too. 

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 06:14:25 AM »
But will the owners and trainers put him up on the best stock. Without the stock he is sure to fail.
I wish him well, but I feel he will get only the also rans to drive, and that frustation will lead to off the track problems.  Hope I am wrong.

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 07:00:50 AM »
I have to agree with Gary here. I would like to see Walter come back and do well and let his demons reside elsewhere. I know Walter from a long time ago when I used to change his diapers in Lewiston Maine. I wish him all the best, and as far as kicking one in a race, I know it is against the rules, but I would rather see that the some of the slashers we have today. And yes everybody gets to ply his trade after they have served their time. Michael Vick is one of many cases.

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2012, 07:30:27 AM »
And yes everybody gets to ply his trade after they have served their time.


I think its great! i agree with TW, he did the crime and the time so whats the problem? 


I applaud Mr. Gural for allowing Walter Case Jr. to ply the only trade he knows at the Big M. Walter is universally known as one of the best ever to don a set of colors, he has paid his debt to society, why should he not be allowed to drive there?

Good.  he did the crime, he did the time, now give the guy a chance.  Walter was a driving God at one point.  Maybe he can come back and do some good.  Hope he makes it.

As I stated, I don't know all the details of his lifetime ban, and unfortunately no one has responded to that.  All the responses were about his criminal history. If he did accept a lifetime ban from driving horses he didn't serve his time because even if he is a born again Christian, he still is on that same lifetime.


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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2012, 07:39:55 AM »
Best driver to walk on the track in my 30+ years of going to Northfield Park.BAR NONE.I also understand why he will/should never step on the racing surface at Northfield again.But if you own or train horses and like money,you want this guy in the bike.I don't care what track he drives at,Schools about to start.
      And for you cappers over there on the East Coast,Don't underestimate this guy,don't wait till he has run in 20 horses paying $40 b4 you get on the bandwagon.
      Here,let me say this 1 more time.Do not underestimate this guy,he will make you a ton of money getting on horse who look like they have NO chance..
      And before anyone asks,i have never met,or spoke to Case in my life.But he could get a Jackass to run a 1:55 mile at Northfied tomorrow.JMO

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Re: Gural Gives Case OK to Drive at the Big M
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2012, 08:38:51 AM »
Gural and Case!!!

Aces.

 

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