ORC suspends Casie Coleman indefinitely

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ORC suspends Casie Coleman indefinitely
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March 05, 2013    | Print View

Casie Coleman, recently honored as Canada's 2012 Trainer of the Year, the record fifth time she has been recognized with the O'Brien Award, has been suspended indefinitely by the Ontario Racing Commission (ORC). The ORC ruling came as it is investigating the matter with a hearing date yet to be scheduled.

The suspension was issued on Monday and it scheduled to begin on Tuesday. Coleman, who is winter training at South Florida Trotting Center, is currently racing her horses at Woodbine and Yonkers Raceway (she has only three starts this year at the Meadowlands). Coleman has a 36-6-6-3 slate this year at Woodbine and she is currently fifth in the dash standings at Yonkers with a record of 34-12-8-2 (a UTR of .503).

The Harness Edge reported Tuesday morning that Coleman received positive tests for the Class IV drug Flumethasone—a corticosteroid for topical use—on horses Mick Dynamite, Hilarious Halo and Run On Luck.

Coleman, who stable earned a record $6.85 million last year, is the trainer of Michael's Power, voted the 2012 Horse of the Year in Canada. She also is the conditioner of Betterthancheddar, who won the 2012 O'Brien as Older Pacer of the Year.

[Headpole Dave]

I told people years ago when she first went to Ontario that she was cheating and I'm not surprised to see this happen. The form reversals on horses like Red Pop, Prime Time Bobcat and dozens of others weren't natural. If you've ever met the woman she has about a 5 word vocabulary of "awesome" "super" "just awesome" and "f**k off Blake." I don't think she can spell horse. Not a fan and never have been.

[LVGaryD]

Flumethasone? She got suspended indefinitely for rubbing stuff on their legs? You have got to be kidding me.

[LVGaryD]

Pharmacology:
Indication   For the treatment of contact dermatitis, atopic dermatitis, exczema, psoriasis, diaper rash and other skin conditions

Now there is some potent stuff that will help a horse go five seconds faster! Dumbasses got her for treating diaper rash.

 

[3 wide and wingin]

Not a horseman and before Gary posted that I didnt know what the drug is.

Alot of the gamblers dont understand the suspensions ( not meaning you HPD) or why they happen.
That the drugs are given 100% for theraputic reasons. But there are just rules about it. Alot of it is not malicious. It is in the horses interest.

I am also worried about the witch hunt attitude that alot seem to have.
I dont know how healthy it is.

That said I have no doubt that alot of the big time name trainers are up to no good and dont really care alot about the horses.
It really keeps my interest in the big time racing down.

I do believe the Pena thing about him having something that just masks everything so you could basicly  do anything you wanted to the animal and it wouldnt show up.

If he had that. Its foolish to thnk he is the only trainer to ever have it.

Ive heard enough from people I trust and regard to think Carmine Fusco and Pena are no good.

Casie Coleman I dont know about.

Toscano Ive heard only good things about.

[Headpole Dave]

I knew her when she was a groom for Bill Davis and Travis Umphrey. I knew her old man when he couldn't bat .200 at Fraser Downs. I knew her when she tried to put out a fire with a bottle of alcohol. She's incredibly dumb, and you only have to look at her literacy skills to see it... Why was every horse she ever had hung up the same way? How do you explain the 9 year olds dropping 3 seconds off life marks after a week on the program? Her name was on the infamous list that circulated through on the EPO scandal that got a man on these harness forums shot and killed. Other names on there like Robinson, Elliot, and many more. How is Phil (her father) suddenly a .300 plus trainer after being much lower on a C track? It doesn't add up. Well actually it does - it adds up to them being cheaters.

[3 wide and wingin]

I wont mention names.

But I know of people who are literaly illiterate ( one at least who cant read or write)  who are great horseman.

The education level for a 3rd generation horseman may not be high.
Horsemanship can be though.

Not indicting them all. Some like CC even have college degrees.

Just saying some who you would think have 65 IQs are damn good horseman and drivers.

But I get your point dave.

[The Skipper]

Thats actually a steroid drug and I believe it was one the Mr Pena was accused of using also 

That's kind of funny the two hottest trainers on the planet used the same stuff, I guess he gave his

with enough time away not to show a hot test.   

[LVGaryD]

Skipper, cortisone is a steroid drug and every single horse trainer on Earth has used dmso and cortisone on horses. I hear it is not legal like it was when I trained, but we used it even in the paddock. Hell I still use it on myself sometimes.

Just more government intervention.

[The Skipper]

And rules are rules 

[The Skipper]

Skipper, cortisone is a steroid drug and every single horse trainer on Earth has used dmso and cortisone on horses. I hear it is not legal like it was when I trained, but we used it even in the paddock. Hell I still use it on myself sometimes.

Just more government intervention.

I'm not disagreeing but if its not allowed its not allowed period.

[LVGaryD]

Marijuana is not totally legal either but it is the best thing any doctor could give a patient. And legal or not, when I hurt badly enough, I am going to get some into my system. Of course I am not suggesting horse trainers would use the stuff on either their horses or themselves...

[The Skipper]

Marijuana is not totally legal either but it is the best thing any doctor could give a patient. And legal or not, when I hurt badly enough, I am going to get some into my system. Of course I am not suggesting horse trainers would use the stuff on either their horses or themselves...

Oh well I didn't realize that, my bad ! Let me call her lawyers and tell them because you're a pot head

she should be able to break the rules.   

[LVGaryD]

Oh well I didn't realize that, my bad ! Let me call her lawyers and tell them because you're a pot head

she should be able to break the rules.   

I would hardly describe myself as a pothead. I have not touched the stuff in 35 years, except under the advice of my doctors. And in total I would guess I have smoked it no more than 12 times in my entire life.

The rules need to be more realistic.

[Bettor]

The rules need to be more realistic.

It is just another black eye for the sport. Especially for outsiders looking in who don't understand it. Guilty until proven innocent.