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Title: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: careless hal on February 16, 2012, 04:20:55 AM
http://www.drf.com/events/kentucky-derby-top-20-churchill-downs

Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: badolpuddytat on February 21, 2012, 07:00:19 AM
Like any other year Baffert is loaded for bear this year.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: pezz97 on February 21, 2012, 07:28:18 AM
Like any other year Baffert is loaded for bear this year.
Him and Pletcher both. Looks like the Juv was a nothing race. Hansen and Creative cause both looked awful in their debuts. Union Rags in this weekend in what will be the toughest Prep race so far.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: NIATROSS on February 21, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
Him and Pletcher both. Looks like the Juv was a nothing race. Hansen and Creative cause both looked awful in their debuts. Union Rags in this weekend in what will be the toughest Prep race so far.

Looks like a nice race this weekend !  thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: CharlieH on March 01, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
There are so many of these lists it makes your head spin if you try to read them all. I stick to Jeremy Plonk. His countdown column on Friday's is so detailed and comprehensive it's a must read. I especially like the analysis of the 3 yr old allowance and maiden races that have horses we haven't seen yet in a stakes. 
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: badolpuddytat on March 03, 2012, 01:41:37 AM
I don't like betting future books. Let's say Union Rags throws in a clunker, then his odds in the derby might go up farther then his 4-1 odds right now. Also you are guaranteed that the runner will start in the race.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: pezz97 on March 03, 2012, 06:16:55 AM
I don't like betting future books. Let's say Union Rags throws in a clunker, then his odds in the derby might go up farther then his 4-1 odds right now. Also you are guaranteed that the runner will start in the race.
I like to play them. Of Course its a gamble just like anything else, but I am looking for a horse or 2 that I will get better odds than if they make the gate for the Derby.


Just like the Oaks Future that opens today, I love the fact that Princess Arabella isn't in the Las Virgenes today. I really could get around the 8-1 she is right now. IMO if she makes the Oaks field, she will not be more than 2-1. Good Value there.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: CharlieH on April 01, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
Should be lot's of scrambling after the Florida and LA Derbies. The LA Derby was a killer for me. I had a $15 Tri key with the 2nd place finisher on top and the 3-5 finishers underneath. It sucks getting beat by a $200 horse.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: cashman on April 02, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
Might get a price on Union Rags now. No clue who the chalk will be come Derby Day.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: pezz97 on April 02, 2012, 12:56:23 PM
Might get a price on Union Rags now. No clue who the chalk will be come Derby Day.
If Gemologist wins the wood, I think he will be the Post time Fav around 5-1
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: pezz97 on April 03, 2012, 07:57:56 AM
After watching the replay, ( I knew it was a bad ride live) but what an awful ride by Julian. Rags still might be the fav come post time
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: srotagtbs on April 03, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
After watching the replay, ( I knew it was a bad ride live) but what an awful ride by Julian. Rags still might be the fav come post time

I told Unique that I will play against Union Rags. He's the best horse, but if Leparoux is going to ride him again in the Derby with all that traffic, I don't know I trust Leparoux to get Rags in the right spot.
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: badolpuddytat on April 03, 2012, 10:36:58 AM
I told Unique that I will play against Union Rags. He's the best horse, but if Leparoux is going to ride him again in the Derby with all that traffic, I don't know I trust Leparoux to get Rags in the right spot.
I agree 100%. LePew doesn't fit the horse!!! Someone has to be the favorite and Union Rags has the most ink!! His Beyers aren't over the top!
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: pezz97 on April 03, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
I agree 100%. LePew doesn't fit the horse!!! Someone has to be the favorite and Union Rags has the most ink!! His Beyers aren't over the top!
It is funny, the only 3 year old this year with 2 Beyers over 100 is Bodemeister. Because the Illinois Derby is expecting a full field, Baffert had to pull a switch and Run Paynter in the Santa Anita Derby ( He has no graded earnings) And Bode is now going to Arkansas to take on Secret Circle. I think Refeal will ride Bode, but what a decision  he has to make
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: Unique Style on April 03, 2012, 07:13:58 PM
If Gemologist wins the wood, I think he will be the Post time Fav around 5-1
Dude, Don't get on my bandwagon now.  rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: pezz97 on April 04, 2012, 07:02:19 AM
Dude, Don't get on my bandwagon now.  rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
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Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: tonyb147 on April 04, 2012, 09:50:59 AM
I'm still going with Court Vision   dorkusinterruptus
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: badolpuddytat on April 04, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
I'm still going with Court Vision   dorkusinterruptus
And he probably couldn't beat 1/2 of the field now!!! rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: Unique Style on April 04, 2012, 07:46:02 PM
I'm still going with Court Vision   dorkusinterruptus

DENIS OF CORK is still my choice
or Fresian Fire  shootme  shootme

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Updated Derby Top 20
Post by: badolpuddytat on April 05, 2012, 03:02:11 AM
DENIS OF CORK is still my choice
or Fresian Fire  shootme  shootme

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
I think FF has a two length lead! rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1