Updated Derby Top 20

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http://www.drf.com/events/kentucky-derby-top-20-churchill-downs

[badolpuddytat]

Like any other year Baffert is loaded for bear this year.

[pezz97]

Like any other year Baffert is loaded for bear this year.

Him and Pletcher both. Looks like the Juv was a nothing race. Hansen and Creative cause both looked awful in their debuts. Union Rags in this weekend in what will be the toughest Prep race so far.

[NIATROSS]

Him and Pletcher both. Looks like the Juv was a nothing race. Hansen and Creative cause both looked awful in their debuts. Union Rags in this weekend in what will be the toughest Prep race so far.

Looks like a nice race this weekend ! 

[CharlieH]

There are so many of these lists it makes your head spin if you try to read them all. I stick to Jeremy Plonk. His countdown column on Friday's is so detailed and comprehensive it's a must read. I especially like the analysis of the 3 yr old allowance and maiden races that have horses we haven't seen yet in a stakes. 

[badolpuddytat]

I don't like betting future books. Let's say Union Rags throws in a clunker, then his odds in the derby might go up farther then his 4-1 odds right now. Also you are guaranteed that the runner will start in the race.

[pezz97]

I don't like betting future books. Let's say Union Rags throws in a clunker, then his odds in the derby might go up farther then his 4-1 odds right now. Also you are guaranteed that the runner will start in the race.

I like to play them. Of Course its a gamble just like anything else, but I am looking for a horse or 2 that I will get better odds than if they make the gate for the Derby.


Just like the Oaks Future that opens today, I love the fact that Princess Arabella isn't in the Las Virgenes today. I really could get around the 8-1 she is right now. IMO if she makes the Oaks field, she will not be more than 2-1. Good Value there.

[CharlieH]

Should be lot's of scrambling after the Florida and LA Derbies. The LA Derby was a killer for me. I had a $15 Tri key with the 2nd place finisher on top and the 3-5 finishers underneath. It sucks getting beat by a $200 horse.

[cashman]

Might get a price on Union Rags now. No clue who the chalk will be come Derby Day.

[pezz97]

Might get a price on Union Rags now. No clue who the chalk will be come Derby Day.

If Gemologist wins the wood, I think he will be the Post time Fav around 5-1

[pezz97]

After watching the replay, ( I knew it was a bad ride live) but what an awful ride by Julian. Rags still might be the fav come post time

[srotagtbs]

After watching the replay, ( I knew it was a bad ride live) but what an awful ride by Julian. Rags still might be the fav come post time

I told Unique that I will play against Union Rags. He's the best horse, but if Leparoux is going to ride him again in the Derby with all that traffic, I don't know I trust Leparoux to get Rags in the right spot.

[badolpuddytat]

I told Unique that I will play against Union Rags. He's the best horse, but if Leparoux is going to ride him again in the Derby with all that traffic, I don't know I trust Leparoux to get Rags in the right spot.

I agree 100%. LePew doesn't fit the horse!!! Someone has to be the favorite and Union Rags has the most ink!! His Beyers aren't over the top!

[pezz97]

I agree 100%. LePew doesn't fit the horse!!! Someone has to be the favorite and Union Rags has the most ink!! His Beyers aren't over the top!

It is funny, the only 3 year old this year with 2 Beyers over 100 is Bodemeister. Because the Illinois Derby is expecting a full field, Baffert had to pull a switch and Run Paynter in the Santa Anita Derby ( He has no graded earnings) And Bode is now going to Arkansas to take on Secret Circle. I think Refeal will ride Bode, but what a decision  he has to make

[Unique Style]

If Gemologist wins the wood, I think he will be the Post time Fav around 5-1

Dude, Don't get on my bandwagon now.