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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2014, 11:53:36 AM »
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Now instead of it being the last race of the night, Friday, they throw it in as the 5th race!!! No one likes betting that stupid ass race and now they throw it right in the early pick 4 and to end the pick 5. Another "great" idea by the biggest idiot in harness racing......

Aren't you glad you get Woodbine programs every week...

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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2014, 12:00:10 PM »
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Now instead of it being the last race of the night, Friday, they throw it in as the 5th race!!! No one likes betting that stupid ass race and now they throw it right in the early pick 4 and to end the pick 5. Another "great" idea by the biggest idiot in harness racing......

It actually is worse then you thought...

Meadowlands Adds Jackpot Super Hi-5

Officials with the Meadowlands Racetrack have announced that starting this Friday (December 19) the track will be adding a second Jackpot Super Hi-5 Wager to its wagering format.

The wager will be added to the fifth-race wagering menu, and the fifth race each night will feature a 12-horse field and will be contested at a distance of one and one-eighth miles.

The 13th race will continue to offer a Jackpot Super Hi-5, but will feature a 10-horse field and the race will be contested at the standard one-mile distance.

The two pools will be kept completely separate from one another. Any carryover from the fifth-race Jackpot Super Hi-5 will carry over to the fifth race on the next racing program. Any carryover from the 13th race Jackpot Super Hi-5 will carry over to the 13th race on the next racing program.

“The bettors have responded well to the implementation of this wager,” said the track’s director of racing operations, Darin Zoccali. “We believe providing a second opportunity for our customers to bet into this low takeout wager is great for the betting public and it will also give us an opportunity to see how the wager performs in slightly different environments.

“The 12-horse field makes it much more likely that there could be one winner, as the jackpot was hit three times in the first eight nights, returning $40,502, $15,608 and $15,527. We believe the 10-horse field will make hitting the jackpot more difficult, which will result in building up a larger carryover pool which adds to the excitement of the racing card. By offering two separate wagers, with different size fields, we can accommodate the player that is looking to hit the jackpot every night and the player who is looking to bet into the massive carryover pool.”

Both Jackpot Super Hi-5 wagers will feature the reduced eight per cent takeout and will be offered with a 20-cent minimum.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2014, 12:03:45 PM »
It actually is worse then you thought...

Meadowlands Adds Jackpot Super Hi-5

Officials with the Meadowlands Racetrack have announced that starting this Friday (December 19) the track will be adding a second Jackpot Super Hi-5 Wager to its wagering format.

The wager will be added to the fifth-race wagering menu, and the fifth race each night will feature a 12-horse field and will be contested at a distance of one and one-eighth miles.

The 13th race will continue to offer a Jackpot Super Hi-5, but will feature a 10-horse field and the race will be contested at the standard one-mile distance.

The two pools will be kept completely separate from one another. Any carryover from the fifth-race Jackpot Super Hi-5 will carry over to the fifth race on the next racing program. Any carryover from the 13th race Jackpot Super Hi-5 will carry over to the 13th race on the next racing program.

“The bettors have responded well to the implementation of this wager,” said the track’s director of racing operations, Darin Zoccali. “We believe providing a second opportunity for our customers to bet into this low takeout wager is great for the betting public and it will also give us an opportunity to see how the wager performs in slightly different environments.

“The 12-horse field makes it much more likely that there could be one winner, as the jackpot was hit three times in the first eight nights, returning $40,502, $15,608 and $15,527. We believe the 10-horse field will make hitting the jackpot more difficult, which will result in building up a larger carryover pool which adds to the excitement of the racing card. By offering two separate wagers, with different size fields, we can accommodate the player that is looking to hit the jackpot every night and the player who is looking to bet into the massive carryover pool.”

Both Jackpot Super Hi-5 wagers will feature the reduced eight per cent takeout and will be offered with a 20-cent minimum.
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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2014, 12:09:47 PM »
And you wonder why Woodbine gets all my money now while I occasionally make a spot play here or there at the Meadowlands on certain horses I follow.    nononono

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2014, 12:12:51 PM »
And you wonder why Woodbine gets all my money now while I occasionally make a spot play here or there at the Meadowlands on certain horses I follow.    nononono
Yup and they are going to get way more of mine now.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2014, 01:22:22 PM »
If they want to address safety, maybe they should rethink these garbage 12-horse fields at 1-1/8 miles. That's a disaster waiting to happen.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2014, 03:38:36 PM »
If I want to make a bet that, although it could potentially offer a large payout, I have no shot of winning I'll go buy a lottery ticket. This is not for the serious gambler but instead a bet for 1) someone throwing darts and hoping to get lucky or 2) rich people/syndicate players that can cover a lot of numbers once the pool gets large. Nothing here for the serious handicapper because even if you do hit the numbers you only get paid accordingly if you are the only winner. DUMB with a capital D.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2014, 03:53:16 PM »
If I want to make a bet that, although it could potentially offer a large payout, I have no shot of winning I'll go buy a lottery ticket. This is not for the serious gambler but instead a bet for 1) someone throwing darts and hoping to get lucky or 2) rich people/syndicate players that can cover a lot of numbers once the pool gets large. Nothing here for the serious handicapper because even if you do hit the numbers you only get paid accordingly if you are the only winner. DUMB with a capital D.

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I don't see why anyone would bet that until mandatory payout day.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2014, 05:31:35 PM »
Perception or reality, if you truly want to eliminate "kicking", the tracks and racing commissions should write a rule that states if a driver does it, the horse gets disqualified. With no one getting paid, that would stop it.

Of course unless the USTA mandates it, while one state may agree others may not. That could influence some drivers to avoid certain tracks.

Personally, if a driver thinks brushing or nudging a horse with his foot gives him an edge, I don't see anything wrong with it because it doesn't look like a kick to me. When my money is on the line, I want the driver or drivers doing everything they can to legally win the race.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2014, 05:55:21 PM »
If I want to make a bet that, although it could potentially offer a large payout, I have no shot of winning I'll go buy a lottery ticket. This is not for the serious gambler but instead a bet for 1) someone throwing darts and hoping to get lucky or 2) rich people/syndicate players that can cover a lot of numbers once the pool gets large. Nothing here for the serious handicapper because even if you do hit the numbers you only get paid accordingly if you are the only winner. DUMB with a capital D.

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I think # 2  would be the correct answer.  ;)

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2015, 11:02:29 AM »
Was not going to write this until Dave Miller's Foot out of the Stirrup became a year-end issue with Mr. Finley.
http://www.drf.com/news/gisser-consistency-needed-horse-kicking-issues

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2015, 11:18:10 AM »
Nicely written, Mr. Giss.  thumbsup

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« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2015, 11:50:57 AM »
When Doctor Butch won the FFA last Saturday, Tetrick's left foot was in motion just before they reached the 3/4's pole. A kick, a nudge, or did it slip due to the rain?

Must have been the rain since he's down to drive.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2015, 12:08:49 PM »
When Doctor Butch won the FFA last Saturday, Tetrick's left foot was in motion just before they reached the 3/4's pole. A kick, a nudge, or did it slip due to the rain?

Must have been the rain since he's down to drive.
Watch it again, he was pulling the ear plugs.

Nice Article Giss. Prime example right here.

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Re: Meadowlands, Tioga, Vernon Implement “Zero Tolerance” Kicking Policy
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2015, 12:58:14 PM »
Was not going to write this until Dave Miller's Foot out of the Stirrup became a year-end issue with Mr. Finley.
http://www.drf.com/news/gisser-consistency-needed-horse-kicking-issues



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