HOY : The Captain Or Bee A Magician ?

[Gazoo]

Until Bee A Magician gets beat she would have my vote .

[pezz97]

I agree

[NIATROSS]

I agree

 

i hope she comes back next year.
like norman said she may race some vs the older males next yr.
she may turn out to be one of the all time greats !

[careless hal]

Continental Victory took on the boys and beat them.  BAM may well have been able to beat the boys this year , but we will never know.  CT won all major events he was In.We saw how the Jug winners fared in the Crown-nada.   The Captain gets my vote .  He will win HOY even if the vote here is 75-1 in favor of BAM.

[Gazoo]

Continental Victory took on the boys and beat them.  BAM may well have been able to beat the boys this year , but we will never know.  CT won all major events he was In.We saw how the Jug winners fared in the Crown-nada.   The Captain gets my vote .  He will win HOY even if the vote here is 75-1 in favor of BAM.

What does Continental Victory have to do with  Bee A Magician ?

Because she didn't race against the boys you're saying that's a knock against her ?   And what makes you think that the Captain is a slam dunk to win HOY ?

In the latest poll Bee A Magician was  still on top by 9 points and had 6 more first place votes.

I could careless who wins HOY because its not going to change my life , but for you to think because she didn't race against the boys she shouldn't win it is ridiculous.

[Jeremy]

The Captain gets my vote .  He will win HOY even if the vote here is 75-1 in favor of BAM.

Did I skip over a few threads where a lot of people on this board bad mouthed CT?  I saw a few saying he should have ran in the jug but a majority saying it wasn't an important race... and even laughing at the thought of him skipping it meant he couldn't be horse of the year.

[beans and weenies]

Did I skip over a few threads where a lot of people on this board bad mouthed CT?  I saw a few saying he should have ran in the jug but a majority saying it wasn't an important race... and even laughing at the thought of him skipping it meant he couldn't be horse of the year.

 

[CyberChamp]

The Captain would get my vote.  He's be winning all over North America and his lone loss was pretty impressive.  Bee had been collecting too much Canadian $$$, but there wasn't much other $$$ out there for her to win against the girls.

Bee really didn't have much competition (off the top of my head, I couldn't name the #2 or #3 3FT).  Then again, maybe that's because she was that good.

 

[Gazoo]

The Captain would get my vote.  He's be winning all over North America and his lone loss was pretty impressive.  Bee had been collecting too much Canadian $$$, but there wasn't much other $$$ out there for her to win against the girls.

Bee really didn't have much competition (off the top of my head, I couldn't name the #2 or #3 3FT).  Then again, maybe that's because she was that good.

 

I agree with everything you said but this wasn't a very stellar year for 3yr old colt pacers either.

[careless hal]

Continental Victory as a filly took on the boys and beat them.  She wasn't only the best filly, she was the best horse period.  We can 't say that about BAM.  CV was HOY. That's what she has to do with this thread.

[Gazoo]

Continental Victory as a filly took on the boys and beat them.  She wasn't only the best filly, she was the best horse period.  We can 't say that about BAM.  CV was HOY. That's what she has to do with this thread.

Once again Continental Victory has nothing to do with  Bee A Magician  !!

I don't see anything in the rules that says Bee A Magician has to race against the boys to win horse of the year .

And there is still debate on whether or not Continental Victory was even the best filly trotter that year.

[careless hal]

Of course there is nothing in the rules to keep BAM from being HOY.  Would I be pissed if she won?  No.  I just don't think it's going to happen.  Time will tell.

[jordanjacob]

Bee A Magician

winning easy vs any and all

not that The Captain isn't awesome, just look at the amount of winner's circle photos with Bee A Magician and notice no other fillies in the picture

[The Skipper]

Tough call, very tough. She has simply dominated her division all year and has not looked extended in

the least little bit. The Captain has been more exciting IMO because his races seem to be much more

competitive yet he still gets the job done with just 1 loss this year and remember neither of these

2 raced in the jug, I would vote for the Captain just cause he won the BC, NA pace and Meadowlands

pace and I have a good friend who is rooting for him. 

[MichiganDale]

I'd call it a draw and name both of these fine horses as Co-Horses of the Year.   Its rather obvious its a tough tough call (as stated by The Skipper) and that the debate is strong and a case made for each.....that being said, I really believe it should be a draw, a dead-heat so to speak.  I do not believe it would lessen the recognition at all and that each horse has such strong credentials that to name one and exclude the other would appear a snub.   Name em' both!   Thats the way I see it, I'm sure others may not.....oh well.....