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Even the guys that disagree with you called it right off the bat. This decision was expected by pretty much everyone. You are certainly going to be in the minority with this opinion. I don't think very many bettors, or horsepeople will believe it. 'nuff said.

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Pegasus Spur half sister to Daylon Magician. She gets better as she matures. An honest, game mare indeed.

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There will still be those who say "the loss doesn't matter", "every horse gets beat". The fact is, every loss matters as much or more than every win. Every horse gets beat (even that's debatable), but to get beat in a mediocre time, against mediocre competition, after getting a .29 second quarter is just not what great horses do.

Bee A magician almost got beat at Mohawk against lesser competition, but despite getting a terrible trip from Zeron, she stormed down the stretch to fight for the win coming from behind with strict whipping rules. ALL HORSE. That's what great horses do when they are not at their best..they still win and don't need excuses.

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General Harness Racing Discussion / Re: Johnny Longshot Trailer
« on: October 23, 2013, 06:38:20 PM »
Was that his voice on the video clip or his dad's? It sure sounded like Martin Sheen!

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{2010 Captaintreacherous 3,H, P1:47.1 $2,792,526.00}



O.K., so he's not atrocious LOL. But he's not invincible like BAM. Careless hal should drink brandywine. Can't figure out how to post the winner's circle picture of Sunshine Beach, who has beaten him this year. I guess they figured if they congratulated the connections, somehow his loss wouldn't count.

Ducking the Messenger I see. How dare they suggest he race on a 1/2 mile track? As Seinfeld said in that classic episode where he didn't want to race his faster friend, I CHOOOOSE not to race!

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Captain Atrocious goes off at 1/5 and hangs on tooth and nail against a horse parked most of the mile from the eight-hole.

Bee A Magician at 1/9 leaves the ear plugs in, jiggy-jogs and leaves them gasping for air.

Why is there even a question? Should she be giving them a headstart, or should the driver be taking a stranglehold and win by as little a possible?

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General Harness Racing Discussion / Re: The Captain!
« on: October 19, 2013, 07:23:36 PM »
Yea, but Timmy's gotta "kick" that bad habit. hammerhead1

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General Harness Racing Discussion / Re: Hambo Day Handle
« on: August 03, 2013, 11:13:18 PM »
Less than last year ($7,837,000). Lowest since 1993. thumbsdown

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Coleman may find out that Sunshine Beach will give Vegas Vacation all he can handle.

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General Harness Racing Discussion / Re: Tracy Brainard Busted
« on: May 19, 2013, 06:42:14 PM »
The simple explanation of what baking soda does: neutralizes lactic acid. Lactic acid causes muscles to tie up or cramp, making the horse stop badly the last quarter.

Baking soda does not enhance a horse's speed per se, it allows the horse to not cramp or tie up, which allows it to go faster.

The crux of all the problems with racing, and most other things is exactly this. We can justify anything. Cheating is OK because everybody else is doing it...the rules are unfair, so I'll do what I want, I need the money to keep paying my bills...

Where does it end?

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General Harness Racing Discussion / Re: Richard Moreau
« on: April 28, 2013, 06:37:22 PM »
Please remember that Mac Donald was NOT very good on the WEG circuit in the last couple of years due to his head injury suffered while sparing Jamieson's life. It takes a few years to come back, and I think he's getting there. If he gets some more impressive horsepower to work with, he is good enough to go with the best drivers on the planet and it won't be long until he proves it.

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Did Bob Belcher make Walter Case look good too? Bob Belcher's horses did not race the same for anyone else as they did for Walter Case.

What people fail to conceptualize is that getting the best driver wins a whole lot of races, simply because the best driver does not get parked, boxed in, run down to the half, etc. The best driver gets what he wants in most races...because they simply do not want to screw with the big dog.

Discussing this any further is futile 4pezz2...Let me just say that every one of the top ten drivers are human and make occasional mistakes, but they all know what they need to do when they have the best horse...stay out of trouble.

Sometimes a driver gets along a little better with a horse than another...Sometimes a driver can win a race with a superior steer when things are equal. But in most occasions (90%), that is just not the case. Top drivers get parked and their charge still goes right through the wire at the finish line. They get run down to the half and still have another move in them. They get boxed in and go up the lightning lane to win with a .26 final quarter.

Even Walter Case a.k.a. "God" did not look very good when he took on the best and had no stock.




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So what's Brennan supposed to do choose off ?  When Brennan won the Big M driving title it wasn't because of Pena , when Brennan finished 2nd behind Sears for 3 years in a row it wasn't because of Pena.

So i guess Tetrick shouldn't get any credit for driving for Toscano or Yannick for Burke ?

Give Brennan credit where credit is due. All he did with most of Pena's horses is point them and go. I think Marty Adler would have won the driving title with those mounts.

Parity has become rare in racing, with a precious few stables winning disproportionately. There's almost always one odds-on, standout horse in any given race at almost every track. With the advent of professional catch-drivers, the game is now almost all about the trainers.

As far as the rest of the drivers are concerned; as I said, there is little to choose between Gingras, Tetrick and Sears. Speaking of Sears, all those years when he finished second to Palone, did that mean that Palone was far superior to him? Maybe you do, but in my opinion that's not the case at all.

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huh ?

Those are the top money earning trainers right now, and a driver is only as good as his mounts. Anybody's top five in this thread could easily be revised according to the power they have between the shafts. There are a few instances where a bad drive can cause a loss, but the majority of the time, it's the guy with the horse that is the sharpest that will win, thanks to the trainer. It was an absolute joke to give credit to Brennan when driving Lou Pena's horses. Any one of anybody's top five would have padded their stats.

Looking much further down the list to less talented drivers is a little of bit different story, but as far as the top ten or so are concerned, there is little to choose between them.

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Top five drivers right now:

1.Whoever drives for Burke
2.Whoever drives for Pena beards
3. Whoever drives for Mark Ford
4.Whoever drives for Rene Allard
5.Whoever drives for Rick Moreau

Subject to change as the Stakes and Grand Circuit season comes along.

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