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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: tonyb147 on October 23, 2011, 08:34:52 AM
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- The tote board was "live". Following the money usually led to the winner.
- Foiled Again is super super sharp. He may get to $4M before WTW.
- The 3yo colt pace is wide open. Should be good.
- St Elmo Hero still a great story IMO. Left hard and still had plenty left to be 2nd to FA.
- Scott Zeron......... wouldn't be my top choice in a big race.
- Ron Pierce......... easily my top choice in a big race.
- Was good to see Palone win against the best. He can drive any horse any time anywhere.
Watched most of the races on my phone while out but will watch replays eventually. Please add your own observations. Looking forward to next Saturday's Finals!
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Nothing to add. I agree with all you said. Looks like next week will be good racing thumbsup
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First off kudos to The Giss on the call on Westwardho Hanover.
Drop the Ball is showing why they took a shot in the Pace.
SYAP is turning into a sad story.
Androvette is clearly the top oldr mare now.
Cedar Dove continues to roll.
MOMM Chapter 7 and Daylon will make the 3yot probably the best betting and viewing race next week.
2yoct looks wide open while Check Me Out looks a standout for 2yof.
You gotta like the way Sweety Lou closed to win and A Rockandroll Dance continues to impress.
Hope they stay well and the weather is right cuz it looks like a great card to watch and make some spot plays.
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Drop The Ball is the Best 3 year old pacer any sex.
Scott Zeron Sucks, Maureen Rocks can beat these anytime with him off of her
Foiled Again is Such a beast. Can't wait to see him in person. That final next week is going to be awesome
I am thinking the connections of Chapter Seven are wondering why they ever listed Mike. I don't think they can beat him next week. * 8-1ML WTF is the morning line guy for weg Smoking?
Scott Zeron again- WTF was he doing on Alasace?
Betterthancheddar was impressive as well, anyone can win the 3 year old pace
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Foiled Again is Such a beast. Can't wait to see him in person. That final next week is going to be awesome
Actually got to see that horse twice, the first time he raced at Northfield I was in NC. So I will root for him to win the final.
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3 yo cold race will likely shape up differently next week when the big $ are on the line. I'm thinking the winner of the final will not be an elim winner.
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3 yo cold race will likely shape up differently next week when the big $ are on the line. I'm thinking the winner of the final will not be an elim winner.
TW I could not agree more. Many other divisions will also likely change next week as well.
The two I think least likely to change are Foiled Again and Anndrovette, but a whole lot depends on post positions..
idunno
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TW I could not agree more. Many other divisions will also likely change next week as well.
The two I think least likely to change are Foiled Again and Anndrovette, but a whole lot depends on post positions..
idunno
Androvette chose post #5
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Androvette chose post #5
Certainly a great place to be at WB. thumbsup
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Just curious about SZ and Alsace...what do you think he should have done? O'Sullivan told me he would be flying late because from that post he didn't want to get caught wide early. 5 advance from 8. Seemed smart to me. How many first-overs (SZ with, was it Modern Connection? as an example) got caught and ended up on the sidelines next week?
Maureen rocks is sharp and racing well, but she is no Anndrovette (spell it right laddies or a particular poster may be unhappy 8))
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Sweet Lou looks like the winner In the 2nd old colt div. Has had tremendous speed , now he can come off the pace. Has now become versatile, doesn't have to be on the lead. Good luck in beating him.
Don't be so quick to claim Foiled Again the champ. We Will See is the horse to beat. He needed that race after being off 20 days and having post 10. He closed in 25.4 . He will be A LOT BETTER next week. Count on it
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Don't be so quick to claim Foiled Again the champ. We Will See is the horse to beat. He needed that race after being off 20 days and having post 10. He closed in 25.4 . He will be A LOT BETTER next week. Count on it
I agree. It was obviously a tune-up race and looked like a usefull work. Should be a great race to watch.
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Sweet Lou looks like the winner In the 2nd old colt div. Has had tremendous speed , now he can come off the pace. Has now become versatile, doesn't have to be on the lead. Good luck in beating him.
Don't be so quick to claim Foiled Again the champ. We Will See is the horse to beat. He needed that race after being off 20 days and having post 10. He closed in 25.4 . He will be A LOT BETTER next week. Count on it
Totally agree, this was but a prep race for We Will See.
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Sweet Lou looks like the winner In the 2nd old colt div. Has had tremendous speed , now he can come off the pace. Has now become versatile, doesn't have to be on the lead. Good luck in beating him.
Don't be so quick to claim Foiled Again the champ. We Will See is the horse to beat. He needed that race after being off 20 days and having post 10. He closed in 25.4 . He will be A LOT BETTER next week. Count on it
Where is the shhhhhhhhhhh! emoticon? Absolutely agree. We Will See from the rail will be tough.
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Just curious about SZ and Alsace...what do you think he should have done? O'Sullivan told me he would be flying late because from that post he didn't want to get caught wide early. 5 advance from 8. Seemed smart to me. How many first-overs (SZ with, was it Modern Connection? as an example) got caught and ended up on the sidelines next week?
Maureen rocks is sharp and racing well, but she is no Anndrovette (spell it right laddies or a particular poster may be unhappy 8))
Hey they can spell it with five n's and six a's for all I care as long as it's about her winning :)
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Hey they can spell it with five n's and six a's for all I care as long as it's about her winning :)
That mare just about shorted out my spellcheck while doing the media guide.
I may use that quote going forward, btw. thumbsup
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I never said Foiled Again was the best or going to be the champ, all I said was what a beast and i am glad i will get to see him live on the 12th
As for SZ, first off in the mare race, all he had to do was move before Timmy did to the top and sit the 2 hole behind him. Yes he had time, and just does not know how to give that horse a chance when the big money is on the line
As For Alasace, whatch the replay all he has to do is leave A Little and he has the rail no worse than 5th before the first turn. I think those 2 spots on the track difference and he is a winner and choosing his post instead of hoping to get lucky now and get one inside.
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I never said Foiled Again was the best or going to be the champ, all I said was what a beast and i am glad i will get to see him live on the 12th
As for SZ, first off in the mare race, all he had to do was move before Timmy did to the top and sit the 2 hole behind him. Yes he had time, and just does not know how to give that horse a chance when the big money is on the line
As For Alasace, whatch the replay all he has to do is leave A Little and he has the rail no worse than 5th before the first turn. I think those 2 spots on the track difference and he is a winner and choosing his post instead of hoping to get lucky now and get one inside.
The trainer disagrees with you on both counts. Alsace tried to leave and then saw what was going inside and took back. It was absolutely the right choice.
Maureen, maybe yes, maybe no.
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The trainer disagrees with you on both counts. Alsace tried to leave and then saw what was going inside and took back. It was absolutely the right choice.
Maureen, maybe yes, maybe no.
Well that is a tough choice to make when you are going for 600K and now you have to hope you don't get post 10. I guess coming from last at 2-1 and taking it easy till the last part of the race is a good way to take care of all the people who bet him as well ( I did not make a wager in the race, thought is was a horrible drive)
As for maureen, maybe yes maybe know WTF is that?. Thought you knew racing. Make the move and sit the pocket how hard is that. Guess it was better to go first over to Anndrovette ( Did I spell it right this time????)
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I give Snail about 6 more hours.............just saying. thumbsdown
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Well that is a tough choice to make when you are going for 600K and now you have to hope you don't get post 10. I guess coming from last at 2-1 and taking it easy till the last part of the race is a good way to take care of all the people who bet him as well ( I did not make a wager in the race, thought is was a horrible drive)
As for maureen, maybe yes maybe know WTF is that?. Thought you knew racing. Make the move and sit the pocket how hard is that. Guess it was better to go first over to Anndrovette ( Did I spell it right this time????)
Ummm you spelled know wrong it should be no.
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Ummm you spelled know wrong it should be no.
rflmao1
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Just curious about SZ and Alsace...what do you think he should have done? O'Sullivan told me he would be flying late because from that post he didn't want to get caught wide early. 5 advance from 8. Seemed smart to me. How many first-overs (SZ with, was it Modern Connection? as an example) got caught and ended up on the sidelines next week?
Maureen rocks is sharp and racing well, but she is no Anndrovette (spell it right laddies or a particular poster may be unhappy 8))
Hi Giss,
I agree with your comment about first-overs which is exactly why Zeron's drive on Maureen Rocks was bad IMO. Go back and watch the replay paying special attention to the entry into the first turn. Zeron leaves and settles in third with Anndrovette right behind in fourth. It looks like Zeron starts to come out and brush to the top (the right move) then ducks back in just as TT on Anndrovette pull and brush the lead. By sitting in - now 4th behind 49/1 and 66/1 - he guarantees himself a shuffle or a first over trip.
If Zeron brushes he should easily clear the two longshots. He would then release Anndrovette and sit in the pocket the rest of the way, giving himself a chance to win. The 2nd qtr only went 29.1 so it wasn't like the longshots were loose on the lead setting brisk fractions. It just shows how strong Maureen was as she was actually gaining slowly on Androvette much of the stretch and wasn't put away until the last 100 yds. Maureen paced home 27.1 27.2 after leaving to 3rd into a 26.1 opening qtr.
Maureen now gets to leave from the rail, which will force Zeron to make a decision. Not the ideal place to leave from; elim winners are choosing middle posts for a reason.
Good luck to JBamond with Anndrovette. Given the right drive Maureen is definately capable of pulling-off the mild upset.
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Did you ever hear of the word humble Giss? You do not know as much as you think you do and sometimes just listening might help you learn more sorry. Just my opinion of course.
To which you are entitled, of course. I asked a question. tonyb took the time to answer it, which I appreciate. You did not.
Handicappers watch races and draw conclusions. Maybe I was right, maybe I was wrong. So I asked for information and opinions.
Amy - having snail around makes life more interesting (at least for now) and I have been quite bored of late.
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He got one third place finish.