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Title: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: CyberChamp on April 17, 2016, 08:31:27 PM
http://www.standardbredcanada.ca/news/4-15-16/state-treasurer-serves-notice.html

On Friday morning, Canada's 2015 Horse of the Year made an emphatic statement with his first charted mile of 2016 -- a sizzling qualifier in Florida.

At Southern Oaks Training Center in Florida, State Treasurer and trainer Dr. Ian Moore were entered in a one-horse qualifier...not that it mattered as the mile would have left him alone at the wire regardless. With the fastest mile in track history, State Treasurer qualified in a jaw-dropping 1:49.4.

"Well, [owners] Allan and Sally [MacDonald] were there, and I had trained him a couple of times in :53. I've just been training him alone, no one to go with him. And they wouldn't qualify with me so I had to go alone...but that's alright," Moore told Trot Insider. "So I told Allan I'm going to down to the half around :56 and probably go a mile in :51.

"When we get going along with the gate, the guy on the gate says 'faster, Doc?' because we were right on it and I said 'no, that's good' and he turned around and tapped the roof of the truck, so the guy drove faster. Well, Treasurer's gotta follow it," said Moore with a chuckle. "I'm laid back on him pretty good going to the quarter, and the more I pull on him the more he pulls on me."

Moore had been very pleased with his soon-to-be-double millionaire during his winter training, noting that a bit change has made the horse much more manageable. However, that wasn't the bit the horse wore during his qualifying mile.

"I told [groom] Teesha Symes to take it out and we just had a Birch bit in him and I didn't have much control. He tossed his head about three times going to the quarter."

After fractions of :26, :52.3 and 1:19.4, the mile was timed in 1:49.4. It marks just the 13th sub-1:50 qualifying mile in harness racing history.

"I left the plugs in and didn't ask him at all. The last quarter's a little slow probably but what would you expect? He's ready to roll."

As a six-year-old, State Treasurer (Real Desire - Ideal Treasure) won nine races and banked more than $986,000 for Moore and the MacDonalds en route to divisonal honours. Moore and Co. will be heading back to Ontario next week, with plans for State Treasurer to make his seasonal pari-mutuel debut in the Preferred class at Mohawk Racetrack. There was never any plan to race in the Levy series at Yonkers, with Moore estimating State Treasurer's first major test would be around the end of May in the 2016 Molson Pace at Western Fair, "if they have us back."

With a number of standouts from 2015 like U.S. Horse of the Year Wiggle It Jiggleit already racing, Moore is well aware of how fierce the competition will be in this year's older pacing division and it will be no easy feat to repeat as the divisional champion.

"There are a lot of good horses around this year...Wiggle It Jiggleit looked pretty impressive last week, and there are some other ones in there too. It's going to be a little tighter than it was the year before."

Having said that, Moore doesn't necessarily feel that the 2015 version of State Treasurer was the top of the line model.

"I was quoted two years ago, I told Allan and Sally that he was better than he was the year before and last year I said the same...well, he seems even better again. He's just been a pleasure to train down."

The speed of this morning's mile doesn't worry the veteran trainer, knowing that the competition will be just as ready when they're lining up against him.

"He's going to have to go in :48 every start probably by the looks of things...or even more, just to be competitive," stated Moore. "So what do you want, train in :55 and give them eight more seconds in a race? When I have them ready, they're ready."

Moore looks to maintain his positive momentum from a career-best training year that saw him take home the O'Brien Award of Horsemanship. While he's missing the first leg of Mohawk's The Diplomat Pacing Series (set to start on April 23), he plans to drop a handful of sophomore colts in the box for the second leg on April 30.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: LVGaryD on April 18, 2016, 08:29:34 AM
WTF, that might be the worst rated mile in history of qualifiers. Non-driving Canadian.

 hammerhead1 hammerhead1 hammerhead1
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: pope of vegas on April 18, 2016, 12:41:30 PM
I think DR. Moore better stick to being a DR.-------- Left the plugs in,but had plenty left...  I'll bet he couldn't reach the plugs and the horse was empty.
  Wants to train as hast as they race,but comes 30sec last 1/4. slaphead
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: LVGaryD on April 18, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
I think DR. Moore better stick to being a DR.-------- Left the plugs in,but had plenty left...  I'll bet he couldn't reach the plugs and the horse was empty.
  Wants to train as hast as they race,but comes 30sec last 1/4. slaphead
He'll be damned lucky if he didn't cork the horse.  Half in 52.  nononono hitdatsumbitch
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: pope of vegas on April 18, 2016, 05:39:27 PM
He'll be damned lucky if he didn't cork the horse.  Half in 52.  nononono hitdatsumbitch

  I'm willing to bet that the good DR. doesn't know the meaning of "cork".....
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: LVGaryD on April 18, 2016, 06:57:32 PM
  I'm willing to bet that the good DR. doesn't know the meaning of "cork".....
No, he is a good horseman. I just think he probably had no idea how fast he was going.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: careless hal on April 19, 2016, 11:24:52 AM
Hell, I remember when it was rare to see a sub 2 minute mile!!!
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: pope of vegas on April 19, 2016, 03:38:08 PM
Hell, I remember when it was rare to see a sub 2 minute mile!!!


  C'mon Gary,,,  Thats why there are 1/8 and 1/16th poles. Hardy ever missed a mile by 2 secs either way. His last quarter of 30 was like us finishing a 2 08 mile in 34+.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: pope of vegas on April 19, 2016, 03:41:04 PM
 Granted , I never had a horse of this caliber, BUT the only time I trained race speed was when I wanted to Cash. And my horse finished real strong or all bets were off.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: LVGaryD on April 19, 2016, 07:51:24 PM

  C'mon Gary,,,  Thats why there are 1/8 and 1/16th poles. Hardy ever missed a mile by 2 secs either way. His last quarter of 30 was like us finishing a 2 08 mile in 34+.
I agree, but neither of us has ever gone a half in 52 either.

Probably didn't even have a watch, and it was a training center track so there were no timers.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: Headpole Dave on April 28, 2016, 12:24:51 PM
Doc Moore has driven and trained his entire life, if he went in 49 it's because he wanted to go in 49. The man is an excellent horseman and has trained a lot of good horses - Shadow Play comes to mind.

My guess is the horse was a little short, but 49 is an impressive qualifier and as he correctly pointed out, he will need to go that fast against the other Bearcats anyway.

I think you'll see State Treasurer win his first start back. I'll be watching.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: tonyb147 on April 28, 2016, 06:47:02 PM
He's in the Preferred at Mohawk on Saturday, Race 10. Very soft bunch for his first start.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: careless hal on April 30, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
He's in the Preferred at Mohawk on Saturday, Race 10. Very soft bunch for his first start.

True, but I can never ignore Arthur Blue Chip! thumbsup rflmao1
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: tonyb147 on April 30, 2016, 12:39:38 PM
Way too many Art horses out there  slaphead
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: pezz97 on May 01, 2016, 05:33:13 AM
Totally Empty last night
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: Headpole Dave on May 01, 2016, 08:31:09 AM
Had nothing at all last night.

Not that anyone was beating Nickel Bag anyway.

I'll take my lumps on this one.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: CyberChamp on May 01, 2016, 09:06:54 AM
None of the horses that qualified well at Southern Oaks have had success up north in their 1st start.

Wish I would've remembered that last night.  4pezz2
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: RocknRoll on May 01, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
None of the horses that qualified well at Southern Oaks have had success up north in their 1st start.

Wish I would've remembered that last night.  4pezz2

Horses never seem to run to their qualifiers from this place, no way I believe those times are accurate.
Title: Re: State Treasurer Qualified in 1:49.4
Post by: pezz97 on May 04, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
WIJI is in this weeks Preferred against State Teasurer

Post-Horse (Driver/Trainer)
1. Nickle Bag (Trevor Henry –Bill Robinson)
2. Nirvana Seelster (Rick Zeron – Bill Budd)
3. Boomboom Ballykeel (Sylvain Filion – Richard Moreau)
4. State Treasurer (Chris Christoforou – Dr. Ian Moore)
5. Idole Duharas (James MacDonald – Sean Mehlenbacher)
6. Wiggle It Jiggleit (Montrell Teague – Clyde Francis)
7. Mohawk Warrior (Sylvain Filion – Richard Moreau)