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Title: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: pezz97 on September 29, 2015, 04:36:27 PM
 bowdown bowdown The Johnstons are finally out. They did more harm to Illinois harness racing than anyone. I will be going back to live racing in Illinois a lot more now.

http://www.harnessracing.com/news/hawthorneawardedall2016harnessdatesinil.html
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: careless hal on September 29, 2015, 05:32:19 PM
Looks like the best deal for horsemen and bettors .  I will miss Balmoral and the year around racing.  Purses should be better.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: Mags on September 29, 2015, 06:20:43 PM
certainly never been a fan of the johnstons but I will miss Balmoral..was a short trip from the house and has been a saturday night staple for myself..glad the horsemen got a better deal but still in need of a gaming bill if the politicians ever decide to do their job and actually pass a budget so they can discuss the other zillion problems for the state...RIP Balmoral
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: pezz97 on September 30, 2015, 03:55:56 AM
certainly never been a fan of the johnstons but I will miss Balmoral..was a short trip from the house and has been a saturday night staple for myself..glad the horsemen got a better deal but still in need of a gaming bill if the politicians ever decide to do their job and actually pass a budget so they can discuss the other zillion problems for the state...RIP Balmoral
I think there is a better chance of the racetracks getting slots with the johnstons now out of the picture.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: Mags on September 30, 2015, 05:50:53 AM
I think there is a better chance of the racetracks getting slots with the johnstons now out of the picture.

agree completely with you Pezz..good to have you back posting with us  thumbsup
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: careless hal on September 30, 2015, 09:33:09 AM
I don't think the tracks will ever get slots.  Johnstons are jerks but polititions don't give a rat's ass about that.   They also are jerks.  There will be no racing in Illinois in 2-3 years,T-bred or harness.  I hope. i am wrong  .  in the meantime i will practice my knife fighting skills so I can fight my way into Hawthorne to watch the harness races.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: tonyb147 on September 30, 2015, 06:00:39 PM
Doesn't matter where they race - IL product needs to improve before I'm watching.  idunno
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: careless hal on October 01, 2015, 05:54:35 AM
Doesn't matter where they race - IL product needs to improve before I'm watching.  idunno

It will be dead before it ever can improve

Many of those still playing the harness races are more gamblers than fans.
Now i am just a recreational betttor.  But,  i know all about betting big.
Back in 68 i bet $400 to win on a horse at Balmoral. I was 't even making $6,000 a year.  Today i would have to bet over $10,000 on a race to equal that..
Of course, the pools aren't  big enough most of the time to allow that. By the way, the horse paid $4.40  to win and was parked every stepof the mile on Balmoral's then half mile track.  I stopped making big bets when Washington Park burned down.  I was so distraught i stopped attending the races for 4 years.
Title: Re: Hawthorne Awarded All Illinois Harness Dates.
Post by: LVGaryD on October 01, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
It's a good step to get racing back more toward downtown than Balmoral, not to mention the owners of Balmoral really were not conducive to the success of harness racing.

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