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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: The Giss on July 25, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
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A FB friend asks I have a question...as I am not a bettor and am wondering how it effects bettors what a yearling cost at the sales...I think it's interesting to see what yearlings cost but tracks put a pretty big emphasis on it and was wondering why?
Have at it/
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I think it is great that they put the yearling prices in the program. Of course it means absolutely nothing, but I do like to be able to say that "my $900 yearling kicked your $50,000 yearling's ass."
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All it means is the breeding and conformation are there. Doesn't mean the heart or the speed is there. Of course in maiden races, it is probably nice for the bettors to know which horses are bred better, as they seem to do better in the early stages of their careers.
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It only matters to me if the horse hasn't made any other starts.
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It matters zero. By the time they get to the races they are what the lines say they are. I do think, especially with trotters, pedigree makes a jump from 2 to 3. That is why you see horses the last few years in Ohio (In The Grippers) start getting hung up in 58. That is what her pedigree says she should be. Every pacer has a family member in their book that has a record of 48 or 49. Look at the freak Bell Flower in Ohio. You could have bought her at Delaware as a weanling for 2500. Ever heard of Fly Fly Buckeye.
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Like many other angles, it may or may not mean something. I like to see a well bred expensive horse that maybe didn't do to well as a 2 yr old have a few starts as a 3yr old and suddenly show improvement in a race , but not win it. It can be an indication that whatever problems the horse was having are now over and that the horse may start reaching it's potential. It, of course , is only one factor. In general, a horse who costs let's say $200,000 as a yearling is not going to a trainer who is a doofuss. You can assume the horse has received proper nutrition and medical attention. I know some owners and trainers look for well bred horses not doing well to get them cheap and maybe turn them around. This is not like claiming a horse and taking 2-3 seconds or more off it's time in a few weeks. It may take many moths or even a year or two to get the results you expect, You have to have a good feel about when you might use that angle. You would go broke just betting the most expensive yearling in a race.
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it means more to me when capping tbreds.
very few harness studs are over $20k a pop.in the tbreds there are plenty and plenty higher.when i see a yearling who came from a $100k stud sell for a lot less i see problems.when i see 1 drop in for a maiden claming 1st out i see more problems.