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Title: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: pezz97 on July 16, 2014, 04:17:47 AM
http://standardbredcanada.ca/notices/7-15-14/takters-miller-drive-under-scrutiny.html
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: careless hal on July 16, 2014, 08:14:18 AM
Looks fishy to me, but we should wait to get the other side of the story before the execution.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 16, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
IMO I see nothing wrong with that drive, he never had room to get to the rail what is he supposed to do
drop back to last ? If a Takter horse had not won it would not be an issue, it happens in a lot of races thats racing  idunno

I would be more interested in why Gingras and Sears were rubbing paint down the stretch  idunno
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: chicagojazz on July 17, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
IMO I see nothing wrong with that drive, he never had room to get to the rail what is he supposed to do
drop back to last ? If a Takter horse had not won it would not be an issue, it happens in a lot of races thats racing  idunno

I would be more interested in why Gingras and Sears were rubbing paint down the stretch  idunno
I agree with the Skipper 100%, what was he suppose to do with a 99/1 shot that got caught outside and had no where to go.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: LVGaryD on July 17, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
Fairly certain this is Gural being Gural. He couldn't ban Sears, so he is going after Takter.

 idunno
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: LVGaryD on July 17, 2014, 05:04:15 PM
However trivial this incident may appear to be, I really believe it is wrong for any trainer to have more than one horse in a race and not call it an entry-separate ownership or not.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: pezz97 on July 17, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
Fairly certain this is Gural being Gural. He couldn't ban Sears, so he is going after Takter.

 idunno
I totally disagree. The horse the week before was able to make the lead in 27 56 and yet that race the half is 57.4 and he can't go forward at all? THE SECOND QUARTER WAS 30.1? Really can't go forward in that?  Oh wait it was his other horse on top can't go after him. Let's just make sure i sit outside Sears so he never has a chance. It was blatant, planned, total bullshit and he should not only be suspended, but he should not allowed to drive trixton in the hambo. He couldn't get off of him fast enough, hand him to the groom, and high five Yannick with Father Patrick. It all stunk to high hell.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 17, 2014, 10:17:09 PM
I totally disagree. The horse the week before was able to make the lead in 27 56 and yet that race the half is 57.4 and he can't go forward at all? THE SECOND QUARTER WAS 30.1? Really can't go forward in that?  Oh wait it was his other horse on top can't go after him. Let's just make sure i sit outside Sears so he never has a chance. It was blatant, planned, total bullshit and he should not only be suspended, but he should not allowed to drive trixton in the hambo. He couldn't get off of him fast enough, hand him to the groom, and high five Yannick with Father Patrick. It all stunk to high hell.

If thats true then Takter is the man  bowdown He did a great job getting his horse home  bowdown
1st gural wants to tell drivers where to drive and now he wants to tell them how to drive  idunno
If every horse could and did race the same race every week handicapping would be much easier.
Funny thing is Sears gapped the 6 on the last turn or he could have gotten out. Another thing is all of a sudden social media has some say in how races are run ????? I find that awful funny that now they care about what people say on the internet when it never mattered until Gural WANTED it to. It's almost impossible to hope that M1 ever gets slot with Gural in charge  birdienana him.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: RocknRoll on July 18, 2014, 12:44:57 PM
I totally disagree. The horse the week before was able to make the lead in 27 56 and yet that race the half is 57.4 and he can't go forward at all? THE SECOND QUARTER WAS 30.1? Really can't go forward in that?  Oh wait it was his other horse on top can't go after him. Let's just make sure i sit outside Sears so he never has a chance. It was blatant, planned, total bullshit and he should not only be suspended, but he should not allowed to drive trixton in the hambo. He couldn't get off of him fast enough, hand him to the groom, and high five Yannick with Father Patrick. It all stunk to high hell.

This horse was a 100/1 for a reason, she's not any good. She lost 2 nw1 races at the Meds already. I don't care what she did at Pocono Speedway last time out with Campbell driving....As soon as they left the gate Sears was in trouble, and probably in an even worse spot if Cooler Schooner didn't break. Takter left the gate and there was never a hole. Did he leave to get parked and block? Maybe, or did he leave to find a hole and hope to get a check? I do know if Takter did go forward, Sears was still never getting out with Yannick on his back. Did Takter sit out there and block on purpose, or was his 100/1 shot just simply over matched to go forward?....I'm sure Jimmy will have an answer for all these questions he'll be faced with.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 18, 2014, 04:44:45 PM
Takter wins his 1st drive friday  rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: Headpole Dave on July 18, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
[quote“I think racetrack owners should be more concerned with
running the racetrack,” Takter said. “Let the judges do their
job. If they think somebody did something wrong I don’t have
any problem with that and I could’ve explained to them what
I did.”

“It’s upsetting because I’m a standup guy,” Takter said. “I
do everything right in this sport. Go after these scumbags
doing all this dirty garbage.”
 Though it would seem unlikely that Meadowlands
management would go so far as to ban Takter from driving
in the Hambletonian, the trainer-driver said he will sue if
that happens.
 “I’ll sue and I’ll drive in the Hambletonian anyway and
then I will tell these people at the Meadowlands to go
(expletive) themselves.”][/quote]


I take Takter's comments with a grain of salt - he was caught in the WEG Detention barn with syringes before a big race and was allowed to race still - being that the owner of the horse was the head of WEG at the time. He's not above being greasy himself. He's a great trainer, and I give him his credit for that, but when he talks about being a "stand up guy," and "Scumbags and garbage," he's a guy throwing stones living in a glass house.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: pezz97 on July 18, 2014, 06:34:37 PM
[quote“I think racetrack owners should be more concerned with
running the racetrack,” Takter said. “Let the judges do their
job. If they think somebody did something wrong I don’t have
any problem with that and I could’ve explained to them what
I did.”

“It’s upsetting because I’m a standup guy,” Takter said. “I
do everything right in this sport. Go after these scumbags
doing all this dirty garbage.”
 Though it would seem unlikely that Meadowlands
management would go so far as to ban Takter from driving
in the Hambletonian, the trainer-driver said he will sue if
that happens.
 “I’ll sue and I’ll drive in the Hambletonian anyway and
then I will tell these people at the Meadowlands to go
(expletive) themselves.”]


I take Takter's comments with a grain of salt - he was caught in the WEG Detention barn with syringes before a big race and was allowed to race still - being that the owner of the horse was the head of WEG at the time. He's not above being greasy himself. He's a great trainer, and I give him his credit for that, but when he talks about being a "stand up guy," and "Scumbags and garbage," he's a guy throwing stones living in a glass house.
thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: LVGaryD on July 18, 2014, 06:35:39 PM
 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1

Syringes in the paddock? ???  slaphead
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: RocknRoll on July 18, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
Scream and Shout coming up in the 9th tonight in a nw2.

Boy did Master Of Law look good, keep him trotting!!
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 18, 2014, 07:13:59 PM
Scream and Shout coming up in the 9th tonight in a nw2.

Boy did Master Of Law look good, keep him trotting!!

 thumbsup I like JC in this 9th race at a price and the 4 also looks to have some talent  idunno
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 18, 2014, 07:24:10 PM
Callahan should be fined for blocking and helping Zeron get the win, I'm emailing Gural right now !
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: RocknRoll on July 18, 2014, 07:24:45 PM
thumbsup I like JC in this 9th race at a price and the 4 also looks to have some talent  idunno

I actually liked 24 in there. Of course didn't play anything on them in the race just have the pick 4 going still. Scream And Shout ran pretty much the same race in here at 8/5 and he did at 102/1.
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 18, 2014, 07:26:28 PM
I actually liked 24 in there. Of course didn't play anything on them in the race just have the pick 4 going still. Scream And Shout ran pretty much the same race in here at 8/5 and he did at 102/1.

Yeah I'm not betting but damn is that driver change on Helios tempting  4pezz2 hope you score on that pic four !
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: pezz97 on July 18, 2014, 07:35:14 PM
I actually liked 24 in there. Of course didn't play anything on them in the race just have the pick 4 going still. Scream And Shout ran pretty much the same race in here at 8/5 and he did at 102/1.
I stand corrected. I was wrong..
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: The Skipper on July 18, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
Helios is a bet next week if RP is on him again  yeahbabydrinkingguy
Title: Re: Takter's To have A Hearing For Miller Drive!
Post by: Headpole Dave on July 19, 2014, 01:13:39 AM
rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1

Syringes in the paddock? ???  slaphead

No. Syringes in the Detention Barn. 5 day suspension and 10 thousand dollar suspension. Horses allowed to race though, because they were owned by the Chairman of the WEG circuit.