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Title: Belmont Report
Post by: careless hal on June 07, 2014, 06:45:48 AM
Got here early and got seats right on finish line.
Can't post photos- files too large!
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Mags on June 07, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
My belmont selections

1) #2 California Chrome -should be able to race his own race once again..needs his well timed move to not go too early..using a combo of #4 Commanding Curve,#9 Wicked Strong and #7 Samratt for 2nd and third

good luck to Chrome
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: cashman on June 07, 2014, 10:38:36 AM
My belmont selections

1) #2 California Chrome -should be able to race his own race once again..needs his well timed move to not go too early..using a combo of #4 Commanding Curve,#9 Wicked Strong and #7 Samratt for 2nd and third

good luck to Chrome

Hope u win Mags. Cuz my tickets look the same way. Used 7 on top a little bit.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Mags on June 07, 2014, 11:10:22 AM
price on #7 should be good for sure..good luck Cash
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: LVGaryD on June 07, 2014, 02:41:18 PM
Got here early and got seats right on finish line.
Can't post photos- files too large!
You can email me the files and I will be more than happy to post them.

Nothing is too big for Old Gary D. to post, laddies. Nothing!  rflmao1
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: NIATROSS on June 07, 2014, 03:34:28 PM
lousy day for me

going to play some supers with #2 on top and wheel the 8 underneath in the other 3 slots
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: RocknRoll on June 07, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
Listening to this asshole owner of California Chrome talk after the race, I'm glad the horse lost.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Jeremy on June 07, 2014, 04:32:10 PM
Listening to this asshole owner of California Chrome talk after the race, I'm glad the horse lost.

Yeah he did a good job of making sure no one felt bad about the loss.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: NIATROSS on June 07, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
Yeah he did a good job of making sure no one felt bad about the loss.
Listening to this asshole owner of California Chrome talk after the race, I'm glad the horse lost.

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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: beans and weenies on June 07, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
yeah he made an ass of himself but he did make an interesting point.  something to think about but you are not going to change tradition.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: RocknRoll on June 07, 2014, 05:44:28 PM
yeah he made an ass of himself but he did make an interesting point.  something to think about but you are not going to change tradition.

How is that a good point? If you don't run in the Derby you can't race in any triple crown race? Let's change the rules because one sorry ass owner cried because his horse lost. So if 20 horses race in the Derby and only the winner wants to race in the Preakness and Belmont we should just award the triple crown? Give me a break. Horses get hurt, miss training and are late bloomers. We should deny them triple crown races? Please....AP Indy never would have won the Belmont, Bernardini the Preakness and so on.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: LVGaryD on June 07, 2014, 05:49:10 PM
I really don't think he has a valid point. If you have paid into a stake, you deserve to either enter the race or not enter it.

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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: RocknRoll on June 07, 2014, 05:53:18 PM
I really don't think he has a valid point. If you have paid into a stake, you deserve to either enter the race or not enter it.

 idunno

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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Jeremy on June 07, 2014, 06:02:32 PM
An above average horse in a below average year.  Only disappointing thing is that I liked the 4 slightly more than the 8 so I didn't hit anything.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: careless hal on June 07, 2014, 06:29:53 PM
Couldn't get any service after 11, so couldn't post anything.  Had winner boxed with 1-2-9, no 8! 4pezz2
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: RocknRoll on June 07, 2014, 06:43:10 PM
An above average horse in a below average year.  Only disappointing thing is that I liked the 4 slightly more than the 8 so I didn't hit anything.

I'm more intrigued by Shared Belief's next start then CC's. Would love to see how good Shared Belief can be.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: pezz97 on June 07, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
How is that a good point? If you don't run in the Derby you can't race in any triple crown race? Let's change the rules because one sorry ass owner cried because his horse lost. So if 20 horses race in the Derby and only the winner wants to race in the Preakness and Belmont we should just award the triple crown? Give me a break. Horses get hurt, miss training and are late bloomers. We should deny them triple crown races? Please....AP Indy never would have won the Belmont, Bernardini the Preakness and so on.
Amen

Just because there hasn't been a triple crown winner in 36 means that there wasn't a horse worthy of doing it! it will happen again, but it takes a special horse to do that and it hasn't happened


This dude made a total ass on live tv in front of millions and millions of people. We now know who the stable is named for cause this guy is a fricken clown. He took a really cool story and in a what 2 minute interview?, threw it all down the toilet..
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: The Skipper on June 07, 2014, 10:24:11 PM
Amen

Just because there hasn't been a triple crown winner in 36 means that there wasn't a horse worthy of doing it! it will happen again, but it takes a special horse to do that and it hasn't happened


This dude made a total ass on live tv in front of millions and millions of people. We now know who the stable is named for cause this guy is a fricken clown. He took a really cool story and in a what 2 minute interview?, threw it all down the toilet..

Yup ! I really just heard the horses story today and bought into it lock, stock and barrel, but after that post race tantrum he threw I couldn't root for anything he owns. I'm glad they let him have the nasal strip though  shootme
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Bdttitus on June 08, 2014, 12:20:16 AM
I boxed 6 horses had the 1,2,4,8,9,11 today, watched it at work! Happy to hit the tri, then watched Mr Colburn make a complete ass of himself, could have been a great ambassador for the sport.......but chose to be the opposite!  Just Classless
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Jeremy on June 08, 2014, 08:21:51 AM
Racing a horse in the Preakness that suffered a minor injury in the Derby wouldn't be fair to the horse.  I have a feeling there would be a lot of DNF or horses that lose by more than 100 lengths just because the owners would want to get a chance to win at the Belmont. Elimination races can be hard enough to bet in harness racing I can't imagine trying to figure out who is trying to win and who isn't if horses were forced to run the Preakness to do the Belmont.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: pezz97 on June 08, 2014, 12:17:19 PM
This guy get's it


http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24583468/california-chrome-owner-coburns-coward-rant-wrong-record-shows-it
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: The Skipper on June 08, 2014, 02:05:25 PM
The thing is this guy made a huge life changing lick with this horse, he hasn't suffered his whole life with cheap broken down rats and then got lucky. I think the horse did great with that DH for 4th but I don't agree that he is the best horse in the world, maybe not even the best 3 y/o in the U.S.  idunno Like Bobby said it takes a very special horse to win all 3 and it will be done again but I think it is quite fitting that the last triple crown winner did it like no other horse before or since him. This guy should of IMO been very thankful for the joy and happiness and the cash that this nice animal has brought into his life, not cry and take his toy home because he lost  noway OK off my soap box now  rflmao1
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: beans and weenies on June 08, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
I tend to side with the owner being pissed crying sour grapes  ;)  I'm  only making a comment.  Standardabreds race 3-4  eliminations  one week and the horses finishing 1-2-3-4 come back next week and race in the final.  others go to consolation. Thorobreds can't come back and race that soon so I understand that.   I think  a horse skips  the Derby or the Preakness should not start in the Belmont. It would prove beyond a doubt a great horse won the triple crown or not.   8)
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Jeremy on June 08, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
Thorobreds can't come back and race that soon so I understand that..

That is their own fault.  100 years ago Sir Barton even ran a race in between the 3.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: badolpuddytat on June 08, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
I said it before the Derby, I did not like that owner. Ok i understand being upset. If you owned or trained horses, we all get upset, but after a day we get over it. This guy still opens his mouth. Maybe he wants the media kissing his DUMB ASS PARTNERS.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: pezz97 on June 08, 2014, 08:11:44 PM
I tend to side with the owner being pissed crying sour grapes  ;)  I'm  only making a comment.  Standardabreds race 3-4  eliminations  one week and the horses finishing 1-2-3-4 come back next week and race in the final.  others go to consolation. Thorobreds can't come back and race that soon so I understand that.   I think  a horse skips  the Derby or the Preakness should not start in the Belmont. It would prove beyond a doubt a great horse won the triple crown or not.   8)


So beans, you have paid for your horse to enter a stake race months in advance. He is at the top of his game and you feel he has a great shot to win. Then you are told that your horse can't race cause he came up with a lung infection for a race 5 weeks earlier and you can't get your money back, How are you going to feel???

That is what you are now saying. These people pay a lot of money for these horses to be nominated to the triple crown, not just the derby BUT ALL 3 RACES! If what you want becomes the norm, then you will have a 3 horse Belmont, yeah that will be fricken exciting. Give me a break....


No A GREAT horse, takes on all comers and wins the triple crown, CC was not that. He was my derby horse and he was lucky so many other contenders got hurt.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: The Skipper on June 08, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
Hey he could of skipped the preakness or the derby and had a fresh horse for the belmont also  slaphead

I don't think anyone that sides with him is getting  what makes the triple crown so prestigious.

The guy is classless and has no point, if he'd of won you may have never shut him up  noway
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: careless hal on June 08, 2014, 10:23:07 PM
The owners were sitting about 35 feet from me.  They seemed affable enough.  I don't agree with him  about the horses that skip races.  However, that doesn't make him an asshole.  Hell, 90% or more of the world would be assholes if that's the case. 
Things got pretty dicey as the big race drew near.  Now, I exchanged some words with some REAL
Assholes!  Also met some real nice folks. One young couple in their early thirties were real nice. The guy asked if his wife could sit into shoulders  to watch the race.  I said sure, as long as she was facing backwards!  Luckily, he thought it was funny!  Hal may be old, but he 's not dead yet!
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: The Skipper on June 09, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
Well the man apologized and I'll give him a pass, he's only human and we all make mistakes. and more often in the heat of a moment. That's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: LVGaryD on June 09, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
Well the man apologized and I'll give him a pass, he's only human and we all make mistakes. and more often in the heat of a moment. That's all I have to say about that.
Hey, all a man can do is apologize. If a guy is man enough to admit he screwed up, who am I to pass judgement on him? He's still a dumbass though. dorkusinterruptus
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: cashman on June 09, 2014, 05:46:38 PM
Hey, all a man can do is apologize. If a guy is man enough to admit he screwed up, who am I to pass judgement on him? He's still a dumbass though. dorkusinterruptus

Who isn't a dumbass at one point in their life.


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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: LVGaryD on June 09, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Who isn't a dumbass at one point in their life.


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Many of us still are dumbasses... in fact many people who have posted in this very thread.

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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: cashman on June 09, 2014, 07:20:39 PM
Many of us still are dumbasses... in fact many people who have posted in this very thread.

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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: beans and weenies on June 09, 2014, 07:46:04 PM
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Many of us still are dumbasses... in fact many people who have posted in this very thread.

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Who isn't a dumbass at one point in their life.


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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: jordanjacob on June 10, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Gary,

This was one of the reasons I did not personally wish to attend:

http://tracking.si.com/2014/06/07/belmont-stakes-leaving-crowds-standstill-transportation-parking-lot/?sct=obinsite

Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: LVGaryD on June 10, 2014, 03:14:12 PM
Gary,

This was one of the reasons I did not personally wish to attend:

http://tracking.si.com/2014/06/07/belmont-stakes-leaving-crowds-standstill-transportation-parking-lot/?sct=obinsite
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Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Jeremy on June 10, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
Gary,

This was one of the reasons I did not personally wish to attend:

http://tracking.si.com/2014/06/07/belmont-stakes-leaving-crowds-standstill-transportation-parking-lot/?sct=obinsite

shirtless guys?
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: careless hal on June 10, 2014, 05:29:02 PM
Gary,

This was one of the reasons I did not personally wish to attend:

http://tracking.si.com/2014/06/07/belmont-stakes-leaving-crowds-standstill-transportation-parking-lot/?sct=obinsite

Left after the 12 the race. My only complaint was there were no shuttles to the parking lot.  Had to hike maybe a mile and a half.  Took maybe 10 minutes to get out of the lot.  Didn't 't see any abandoned cars or shirtless guys or gals.  Much better than leaving the Breeders Cup at Santa Anita. You can't believe everything that is reported.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: badolpuddytat on June 11, 2014, 06:39:16 AM
Final thoughts, 1st, CC WAS America's horse. Yes I know a lot of people were following CC Belmont. Feel good story, made a lot of new people watch the race. Might of had new blood that comes to the races, UNTIL!!! A sore loser opens his mouth!!!! Now America's horse is probably like LeBron James's DECISION!!!  Prospective new fans turned off by Coburn's rant.  Now CC can race for his Dumb Ass Partners.
Title: Re: Belmont Report
Post by: Jeremy on June 11, 2014, 10:47:08 AM
Final thoughts, 1st, CC WAS America's horse. Yes I know a lot of people were following CC Belmont. Feel good story, made a lot of new people watch the race. Might of had new blood that comes to the races, UNTIL!!! A sore loser opens his mouth!!!! Now America's horse is probably like LeBron James's DECISION!!!  Prospective new fans turned off by Coburn's rant.  Now CC can race for his Dumb Ass Partners.

I have casual fans at the workplace, they just thought it was funny and asked if a lot of people share his thoughts in the industry.