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Title: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on April 27, 2013, 11:21:18 PM
Here's a kid following in his father's footsteps with stiffing horses .........how about the drive he gave Mystician in the 10th race tonight ?

I'll take the Mcnair kid over him any day of the week.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: RocknRoll on April 28, 2013, 12:19:58 AM
Here's a kid following in his father's footsteps with stiffing horses .........how about the drive he gave Mystician in the 10th race tonight ?

I'll take the Mcnair kid over him any day of the week.

I can't stand this kid. There are some days he drives unreal, and other times I'm sitting there wondering wtf he's doing. Never gave Mystician a chance.

McNair is my favorite driver to bet there. He improves everything he gets on.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Headpole Dave on April 28, 2013, 06:40:32 AM
He's unreal talent wise but can be very frustrating to bet. He loves coming from off the pace and often doesn't put his horses where they have to be in order to have a shot because of this quirk. McNair is more of a cowboy, he's point and go IMO, and has talent but Zeron is much more talented. Billy Davis is another great young driver and one I'd rank just behind Zeron and ahead of McNair.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: RocknRoll on April 28, 2013, 10:56:54 AM
He's unreal talent wise but can be very frustrating to bet. He loves coming from off the pace and often doesn't put his horses where they have to be in order to have a shot because of this quirk. McNair is more of a cowboy, he's point and go IMO, and has talent but Zeron is much more talented. Billy Davis is another great young driver and one I'd rank just behind Zeron and ahead of McNair.

I like playing Billy Davis as well. He needs to get more top drives.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on April 28, 2013, 11:05:33 AM
Drivers aside,how can any right thinking handicapper not want to bet against Mystician last night?
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: RocknRoll on April 28, 2013, 11:09:29 AM
Drivers aside,how can any right thinking handicapper not want to bet against Mystician last night?

He was far and away the best horse in that race. Not even close.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on April 28, 2013, 11:13:05 AM
If you factor in monies won. His effort in his last start along with the weak qualifier didn't show he was even close to a winning effort. You can bet against him next week also.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: RocknRoll on April 28, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
If you factor in monies won. His effort in his last start along with the weak qualifier didn't show he was even close to a winning effort. You can bet against him next week also.

If Scott gave the horse any chance last night he wins. Any chance...
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on April 28, 2013, 02:28:19 PM
If you factor in monies won. His effort in his last start along with the weak qualifier didn't show he was even close to a winning effort. You can bet against him next week also.
A guy that likes to pat himself on the back after the fact !!  so how was the qualifier weak ? did you think he was all out in .57 in the qualifier  rflmao1

Sweet Talkin Satin only went in .56.3 in his qualifier that day so I guess his qualifier was weak also   slaphead
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Bettor on April 29, 2013, 04:24:02 AM
I'll take the Mcnair kid over him any day of the week.

McNair is the Brian Sears of Woodbine; he always knows where that wire is. As I've stated before, I've known Dougie since he is 6 years old. He is as humble now as he was then. We are so proud of his vision, hardwork, and determination. I've never once though his success would not occur. He is so good for the sport!
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: AmyHollar on April 29, 2013, 11:32:06 AM
McNair is the Brian Sears of Woodbine; he always knows where that wire is. As I've stated before, I've known Dougie since he is 6 years old. He is as humble now as he was then. We are so proud of his vision, hardwork, and determination. I've never once though his success would not occur. He is so good for the sport!
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Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Danville on April 29, 2013, 11:46:32 AM
I like playing Billy Davis as well. He needs to get more top drives.

Watgched Davis when he was out at Fraser in B.C.
He was close to unbeatable out there.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: The Skipper on April 29, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
I can't stand this kid. There are some days he drives unreal, and other times I'm sitting there wondering wtf he's doing. Never gave Mystician a chance.

McNair is my favorite driver to bet there. He improves everything he gets on.

I told your brother the same exact thing....... But I was talking about Callahan, I've only seen him drive

at M1 but IMO he guts too many horses and if they have no speed he seems to get lost. I know he is the

leading driver right now but I think he has a lot of room for improvement and that's scary.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on May 04, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
You can bet against him next week also.
Good call  rflmao1 

Mystician(L)    2    6/7T    6@/6H   4@@/2T  3/2      1/1        1:50.3
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: RocknRoll on May 05, 2013, 10:33:40 AM
Good call  rflmao1 

Mystician(L)    2    6/7T    6@/6H   4@@/2T  3/2      1/1        1:50.3

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 I loved the announcers call, Mystician in a perfect spot tonight.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on May 05, 2013, 07:44:59 PM
Good call  rflmao1 

Mystician(L)    2    6/7T    6@/6H   4@@/2T  3/2      1/1        1:50.3
Good call on that 1/2 you're too sharp for me.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2013, 08:52:03 PM
Good call on that 1/2 you're too sharp for me.
huh ?
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Jeremy on May 06, 2013, 02:56:24 PM
Good call on that 1/2 you're too sharp for me.

Better to have him at 1/2 than anyone else at their respective odds.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: RocknRoll on May 06, 2013, 11:40:58 PM
Better to have him at 1/2 than anyone else at their respective odds.

 thumbsup thumbsup

Good call on that 1/2 you're too sharp for me.

You were the one that said he wouldn't win this week as well. Well Jody gave him a chance unlike Scott did last week and look at what happened. That's all the thread was about, how poor Scott drove the horse, not that 1/2 betting value was a great play.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on May 07, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
Good call on that 1/2 you're too sharp for me.
Even a better call on saying he wouldn't win   rflmao1
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on May 07, 2013, 03:48:12 PM
Have fun with your obvious odds on selections. It takes quite a an exceptional understanding of horses to pick a horse withover 1 million on the card to beat a group of 20 claimers I was wrong to doubt you. Carry on.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: LVGaryD on May 07, 2013, 03:58:54 PM
 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on May 07, 2013, 04:54:35 PM
Have fun with your obvious odds on selections. It takes quite a an exceptional understanding of horses to pick a horse withover 1 million on the card to beat a group of 20 claimers I was wrong to doubt you. Carry on.
I think the topic was about Zeron stiffing the horse the week before .

Then you had to run your gums saying he didn't and and how could anybody bet him off a not so good qualifier (that he won in hand) and how you could bet against him his next start.

It takes quite a an exceptional understanding of horses to pick against a horse withover 1 million on the card that laid over a group of 20 claimers.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on May 07, 2013, 07:36:57 PM
It takes a wise man to seek and find any 1/2 to bet you must be an ultra sharp human being to say the least.. I'm hoping to gain some insight on how you find such goodness.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Gazoo on May 07, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
It takes a wise man to seek and find any 1/2 to bet you must be an ultra sharp human being to say the least.. I'm hoping to gain some insight on how you find such goodness.
Try and twist it anyway you want but your the dope that said the horse wouldn't win  rflmao1

Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Jeremy on May 07, 2013, 07:57:49 PM
It takes a wise man to seek and find any 1/2 to bet you must be an ultra sharp human being to say the least.. I'm hoping to gain some insight on how you find such goodness.

This weeks odds had nothing to do with your comment last week to play against him this week. 

You could have said that in your opinion you don't think it was the drive last week and that the horse wasn't ready and everyone would have dropped it.  But it is silly to start making fun of someone because the horse was 1/2 this week and won.  He didn't know what the horses odds would be this week (and didn't really care as it was a comment about that night's drive) and you didn't either, or else you probably wouldn't have said to feel free to bet against him.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on May 07, 2013, 08:14:14 PM
Try and twist it anyway you want but your the dope that said the horse wouldn't win  rflmao1
Now I'm a dope because I don't really care for the horse. I expected more from someone as smart as yourself. It's easy to talk shit behind the screen maybe a few states away. If you're in Illinois:

Maywood Park
Superbooth 1

Monday 6:30 10:30
Saturday 6:30 Midnight

I enjoy reading most all of your posts but name calling because of a simple disagreement? That's the internet for you
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Jeremy on May 08, 2013, 07:10:14 AM
Now I'm a dope because I don't really care for the horse. I expected more from someone as smart as yourself. It's easy to talk shit behind the screen maybe a few states away. If you're in Illinois:

Maywood Park
Superbooth 1

Monday 6:30 10:30
Saturday 6:30 Midnight

I enjoy reading most all of your posts but name calling because of a simple disagreement? That's the internet for you

Several things about this thread.

Nothing wrong with saying "you were right, I didn't care for the horse and he won"

or "I still don't think it was the drive last week, he just wasn't ready"

Telling people to come meet you if there is a problem isn't showing that you are brave and the other person is a coward or whatever you were hoping to prove.  You asked him to meet on your home turf and if he showed up he would be charged with assault, and I have yet to meet someone on the forum worth going to jail over.

Even the best handicappers are wrong more often then they are correct so I still can't see why you just couldn't have just said either of the top two things and then moved on.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Goodfella on May 08, 2013, 03:01:41 PM
I've met some great people from these sites Old and Slow& Pezz to name a few I find it interesting putting a name with a face. I would have moved on without the dope comment. I commend you Jeremy on being the moderator during this silly diiscussion you're invited to the booth any time. The fun of telling someone you feel is to their face to get the reaction. Forums are can be entertaining to some degree but with name calling I consider the source and laugh it off as I would face to face I've been in trouble my entire life I would never let something like this get the best of me.
Title: Re: Scott Zeron
Post by: Horseman809 on May 08, 2013, 04:13:25 PM
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