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Title: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: burton on February 03, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
Any news on this horse?
I know he hasn't race in a couple months.
If anyone has a status report, I'd like to hear it?
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: LVGaryD on February 03, 2013, 04:16:01 PM
He is pulling an Amish buggy. The horse is sound and may be brought back. Marvin Raber didn't want to race him on frozen tracks. They might bring him back into training next spring. Till then he is taking Christians to church. ;D
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Skipper on February 03, 2013, 04:43:12 PM
Any news on this horse?
I know he hasn't race in a couple months.
If anyone has a status report, I'd like to hear it?

See this thread. http://inthesulky.com/index.php?topic=2586.0
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on February 03, 2013, 06:07:36 PM
See this thread. http://inthesulky.com/index.php?topic=2586.0

That made me laugh out loud.

Thats not an easy accomplishment.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: fuzzypants on February 04, 2013, 04:47:46 AM
Made u laugh 3 wide?
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: LVGaryD on February 04, 2013, 08:05:57 AM
While I was in Ohio in September and October, I met Marvin Raber and spoke with him at several fairs. Of course I also met the horse Four Starz Valley several times too.

I truly wish I was in Ohio for a couple of months to rig this horse up for Marvin. I promise you this is at least a solid middle class claimer-$8000-$10,000, if you could control him. He is like a runaway train. He wants to race. I saw him trot a half in 59.3 at a county fair in October, and he was not even going full tilt. The trouble was, he made a break behind the gate.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 04, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
He is pulling an Amish buggy. The horse is sound and may be brought back. Marvin Raber didn't want to race him on frozen tracks. They might bring him back into training next spring. Till then he is taking Christians to church. ;D
The horse is sound? That's not what that  wannabe trainer from New York named Doherty would have you believe. They all tried to pull one big scam when she and the previous owner Wendi found out the horse could race.
I'm still waiting to see the so called forged paperwork!
I'm still waiting for the name of the person that the horse was originally given to.
I think the horse was shipped to Doherty and when she couldn't make the horse go forward they Amished the horse. Then when Raber got the horse going forward they came up with this bullshit story to try to scam the horse back.
Why else wouldn't the Doherty lady name who the horse was given to? Forever home my ass!
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 04, 2013, 10:58:10 AM
That made me laugh out loud.

Thats not an easy accomplishment.
take up another phony cause with the ass clowns from the porno site. That would make us all laugh again also.
Dumb shit
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: JUlCEJUNKlES on February 04, 2013, 11:41:50 AM
The horse is sound? That's not what that  wannabe trainer from New York named Doherty would have you believe. They all tried to pull one big scam when she and the previous owner Wendi found out the horse could race.
I'm still waiting to see the so called forged paperwork!
I'm still waiting for the name of the person that the horse was originally given to.
I think the horse was shipped to Doherty and when she couldn't make the horse go forward they Amished the horse. Then when Raber got the horse going forward they came up with this bullshit story to try to scam the horse back.
Why else wouldn't the Doherty lady name who the horse was given to? Forever home my ass!

YOU GOT ALOT OF NERVE YOU f**kING SCUM BAG.
THIS WHOLE SITE IS A BUNCH OF INBRED f**kING MAGGOTS.
JOKE ABOUT A HORSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT GOING FOR MEAT.
SLANDER AN INNOCENT TRAINER IN NY.
TRY AND CAST RABER AS INNOCENT AND GOOD.

THIS CREW HERE IS A REAL TREAT, AT LEAST THE RACING WORLD KNOWS WHERE TO FIND ALL THE SCUM.

RIGHT HERE AT INTHESULKY.COM

NICE WORK ADMIN OF THIS SITE AND THANKS FOR KEEPING ALL THE LOWLIFES IN ONE PLACE.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 04, 2013, 12:04:34 PM
YOU GOT ALOT OF NERVE YOU f**kING SCUM BAG.
THIS WHOLE SITE IS A BUNCH OF INBRED f**kING MAGGOTS.
JOKE ABOUT A HORSE PEOPLE CARE ABOUT GOING FOR MEAT.
SLANDER AN INNOCENT TRAINER IN NY.
TRY AND CAST RABER AS INNOCENT AND GOOD.

THIS CREW HERE IS A REAL TREAT, AT LEAST THE RACING WORLD KNOWS WHERE TO FIND ALL THE SCUM.

RIGHT HERE AT INTHESULKY.COM

NICE WORK ADMIN OF THIS SITE AND THANKS FOR KEEPING ALL THE LOWLIFES IN ONE PLACE.
so my opinion on what really happened to four star is not plausible? Prove it otherwise. Where did the horse go when it left wendi,  the original owner?
Without that piece of the puzzle, the whole thing stinks of a scam.
Stick to the porno site, it is more befitting a person of your character.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: JUlCEJUNKlES on February 04, 2013, 12:09:14 PM
so my opinion on what really happened to four star is not plausible? Prove it otherwise. Where did the horse go when it left wendi,  the original owner?
Without that piece of the puzzle, the whole thing stinks of a scam.
Stick to the porno site, it is more befitting a person of your character.

YOU ARE A CIRCLE TALKER, IS IT OPINION OR IS IT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
YOU ARE A SLANDERER, A LIBELOUS MAGGOT.
KEEP UP WITH THE PUZZLE, THE PIECES ARE FALLING INTO PLACE.

WE'LL CHAT SOON.

THE GRIPPER, EXPOSED AS A LIAR AGAIN.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 04, 2013, 12:15:21 PM
YOU ARE A CIRCLE TALKER, IS IT OPINION OR IS IT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
YOU ARE A SLANDERER, A LIBELOUS MAGGOT.
KEEP UP WITH THE PUZZLE, THE PIECES ARE FALLING INTO PLACE.

WE'LL CHAT SOON.

THE GRIPPER, EXPOSED AS A LIAR AGAIN.
The story the Doherty girl posted, is that what REALLY happened? Prove it.
From what I've read on the internet, the pieces have already fallen into place.
Chat soon? I hope so. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: LVGaryD on February 04, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
THIS CREW HERE IS A REAL TREAT, AT LEAST THE RACING WORLD KNOWS WHERE TO FIND ALL THE SCUM.

RIGHT HERE AT INTHESULKY.COM

NICE WORK ADMIN OF THIS SITE AND THANKS FOR KEEPING ALL THE LOWLIFES IN ONE PLACE.
Thanks idiot. We have a little less scum here now! Buh byeeee!
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Skipper on February 04, 2013, 12:56:32 PM
YOU ARE A CIRCLE TALKER, IS IT OPINION OR IS IT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
YOU ARE A SLANDERER, A LIBELOUS MAGGOT.
KEEP UP WITH THE PUZZLE, THE PIECES ARE FALLING INTO PLACE.

WE'LL CHAT SOON.

THE GRIPPER, EXPOSED AS A LIAR AGAIN.

Any place you're not welcome has to be all class ! Now scat  birdienana birdienana birdienana
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 04, 2013, 01:10:39 PM


THIS CREW HERE IS A REAL TREAT, AT LEAST THE RACING WORLD KNOWS WHERE TO FIND ALL THE SCUM.

RIGHT HERE AT INTHESULKY.COM

NICE WORK ADMIN OF THIS SITE AND THANKS FOR KEEPING ALL THE LOWLIFES IN ONE PLACE.
Way too funny. Take a look at the front page of threads here at Inthesulky and then look at the front page of the cesspool. The racing world knows where to find the scum alright, right there at plop, because Gary doesn't allow it. That's why your good buddy is up shit creek. Yeah, that's it, Rick Yarter is getting sued because the scum of all harness racing posts right here at the sulky. LOL
Nice work Gary, keeping all of the scum over at plop.

Yeah, you got it all figured out.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 04, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
Well all I know is if convicted drug dealers and scum like Yarter and Marks are for something, than I'm usually against it... Proven liars, degenerates, and all around horrible human beings. They thrive at scumplop.

Poor Yarter is losing everything. Heard he was down to hanging and pushing at the library for the free Internet.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on February 04, 2013, 07:39:06 PM
Thanks idiot. We have a little less scum here now! Buh byeeee!

First of all I dont think the horse is able to race. For whatever reason he couldnt pay his way and thats all I said from day 1.
The woman from california is a nice person and would like to see her re gain possession of the horse. But I am not really here to rehash this. It is what it is.

The guy who is now banned is something. He doesnt get that his "involvement" in any case doesnt help the side he advocates.

He has 0 integrity and is laughed off of every site on the net that has integrity or cares at all about the sport or his participants.

But thats why he and his little tribe. Of about 4 people band together wherever they can.
They are true Pariah.

Whatever you think about me etc etc. I do have integrity and I dont lie about people.
I have documented that person has lied about me.

Case closed.

And for Gripper I am nto going to get into the debate about the horse. My thoughts are the same as ever.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: LVGaryD on February 04, 2013, 07:48:14 PM
Trust me, this horse is definitely able to race. I saw him, and frankly he is too much horse for most people to handle. I could handle him only because I had a lot worse horses than him to handle.

He has a lead mouth, which was much more prevalent with horses when I was a kid than it is today. No matter how hard you pull him, he refuses to slow down behind the gate. I would rig him much, much differently than Marvin Raber had him.

There truly is not a pimple on his legs, rather there was nothing when I saw him at three fairs in September and October. To see him on the track he is sounder than many horses that race every night all over the country.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on February 04, 2013, 08:04:22 PM
Trust me, this horse is definitely able to race.

He is not able to race and make money with Raber.

This is the second time people have given up on him racing.

It appears Raber is going to take a serious cash loss and time and effort loss.

Ive never really said bad things about him. He came across the horse and I am sure he didnt expect the fiasco that it would become or he would have left the horse as soon as he saw him.

I do know the California woman is a genuine animal lover. And wouldnt do anything to harm a horse or any animal for that part.

I really do not wish to have a big debate on this though.
You guys can if you want. But I hate going round and round on things.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: LVGaryD on February 04, 2013, 08:11:28 PM
No I am not going round and round. I met Marvin Raber and he is a very nice man. I just think (know) I could get this horse to race like he is supposed to race.

He is a kitty cat compared to some of the bullheads I trained.  4pezz2
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 05, 2013, 02:14:40 AM
First of all I dont think the horse is able to race. For whatever reason he couldnt pay his way and thats all I said from day 1.
The woman from california is a nice person and would like to see her re gain possession of the horse. But I am not really here to rehash this. It is what it is.

The guy who is now banned is something. He doesnt get that his "involvement" in any case doesnt help the side he advocates.

He has 0 integrity and is laughed off of every site on the net that has integrity or cares at all about the sport or his participants.

But thats why he and his little tribe. Of about 4 people band together wherever they can.
They are true Pariah.

Whatever you think about me etc etc. I do have integrity and I dont lie about people.
I have documented that person has lied about me.

Case closed.

And for Gripper I am nto going to get into the debate about the horse. My thoughts are the same as ever.
You chose to openly post in and SUPPORT a libelous thread started by JJ entitled "Marvin Raber horse thief".
You had ZERO facts in the case and jumped on the proverbial bandwagon.
Who did "Wendi" give the horse to?. Covering up this persons name lends tons of weight to my theory that a former jealous owner and former jealous trainer tried to scam the horse back after discovering Marvin Raber got the horse going.
My opinion is there is no and NEVER was an injury to the horse, the whole story was a fabrication to smear Marvin Raber and scam the horse back to Wendi.


As far as Fuzzy goes, drink another bottle of scotch and go back to 4th grade.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: Jeremy on February 05, 2013, 04:28:58 AM
Kurt should refriend Amy
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: fuzzypants on February 05, 2013, 06:21:03 AM
Your claims are incorrect .
Don't be so paranoid !
Not every one is a scamming thug .
I will gladly meet  u in person .
Don't worry I'm a women gripper so know need to shit your pants.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 05, 2013, 06:29:27 AM
Your claims are incorrect .
Don't be so paranoid !
Not every one is a scamming thug .
I will gladly meet  u in person .
Don't worry I'm a women gripper so know need to shit your pants.
I consider you lower than the dirt beneath my feet. You posted lie after lie about Marvin Raber with ZERO proof.
I would love to meet you just to spit in your face!
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: fuzzypants on February 05, 2013, 07:25:26 AM
I consider you lower than the dirt beneath my feet. You posted lie after lie about Marvin Raber with ZERO proof.
I would love to meet you just to spit in your face!
So what did Raber proove?

That he's an admitted animal abuser without any common sense to look check his load befor getting under the stealing wheel of a truck and trailer.

You seem to have a real problem with ethics and integrity ?

You most definantly have a real problem with those that care about retired race horse why?

These previous owners that care about the full circle program and want to see this program work ,u have a real hard on for why all the hate ?

The priority of a products industry in retirement should be everyone in the industry first and foremost concern .
So start wiping the cruel saliva off your venom lips .

Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 05, 2013, 07:35:43 AM
So what did Raber proove?

That he's an admitted animal abuser without any common sense to look check his load befor getting under the stealing wheel of a truck and trailer.

You seem to have a real problem with ethics and integrity ?

You most definantly have a real problem with those that care about retired race horse why?

These previous owners that care about the full circle program and want to see this program work ,u have a real hard on for why all the hate ?

The priority of a products industry in retirement should be everyone in the industry first and foremost concern .
So start wiping the cruel saliva off your venom lips .
Mr. Raber was not out to prove anything to anybody. He bought a race horse and raced it. PERIOD

I have no problem with ethics and integrity. You and your drug dealing friend do. You all did nothing but slander and tell lies about Mr. Raber with ZERO proof.

I have no problem with anybody wanting to care about a retired horse. I have a problem with previous owners DUMPING a horse and then all of a sudden proclaiming the horse was stolen.

Now go peddle your lies and bullshit somewhere else.

Why are you even on this site? After all the shit you posted about Gary on BTW,I would have thought you would stay there.

Star is sound and racing, stick your lies in your ass, I doubt he was ever injured
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: fuzzypants on February 05, 2013, 09:43:50 AM
Gripper there is obviously not enough alcohol in the world to kill the bug up your azz.

They have found a treatment for donkey lice hope u get treatment soon cause u have a fatal case of donkey lice.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 05, 2013, 09:49:01 AM
Gripper there is obviously not enough alcohol in the world to kill the bug up your azz.

They have found a treatment for donkey lice hope u get treatment soon cause u have a fatal case of donkey lice.
GSAC and have another bottle of scotch. You never posted one shred of proof. You or Doherty. Where is the forged paperwork? Who did Wendi give the horse to. Why the lies and cover up? Who is Doherty trying to protect?
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: fuzzypants on February 05, 2013, 10:17:59 AM
Who is the the thug?
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: The Gripper on February 05, 2013, 10:28:08 AM
Who is the the thug?
You and Doherty for what you put  Mr. Raber through. He bought and paid for the horse.
Sorry, the extortion tactics did not work out because Mr Raber still has the horse.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on February 05, 2013, 10:31:25 AM
You chose to openly post in and SUPPORT a libelous thread started by JJ entitled "Marvin Raber horse thief".
You had ZERO facts in the case and jumped on the proverbial bandwagon.
Who did "Wendi" give the horse to?. Covering up this persons name lends tons of weight to my theory that a former jealous owner and former jealous trainer tried to scam the horse back after discovering Marvin Raber got the horse going.
My opinion is there is no and NEVER was an injury to the horse, the whole story was a fabrication to smear Marvin Raber and scam the horse back to Wendi.


As far as Fuzzy goes, drink another bottle of scotch and go back to 4th grade.

Your opinion is moot to me.
Just as mine is moot to you.

Now I figure it should preoccupy him the rest of the day figuring out what moot means and how I am using it here.

Dont say I never do a service to the site.
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: LVGaryD on February 05, 2013, 11:25:10 AM
Ok, enough bullshit. I'm locking every one of these idiotic topics.   

Four Staarz Valley was not taken in any way. He was bought. The other owner did not properly do the paperwork and Ohio has a lien law in place for this type of circumstance. Marvin Raber owns the horse and probably will indefinitely. He is allowed to race, bottom line.

I've been cleaning my carpets all morning long and I am not in a good mood to start with. Any poster who pisses me off any further will be shown the exit.

I am the f**king king here....sort of like Obama.  rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on February 05, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Knew that was coming.

Thats why I said I didnt feel like getting into it again.


This goes out to everyone on the forum  :)


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Title: Re: Four Starz Valley Update??
Post by: AmyHollar on February 05, 2013, 05:17:46 PM
Kurt should refriend Amy

He'd just Amish me soon after.