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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: NIATROSS on December 23, 2012, 06:45:15 PM
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seahawks win tonite pack win next week they are the #2 nfc seed
after the debacle earlier this yr in seattle you owe the pack
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thumbsup
And a Pack win and Bears win next week, the Bears are in!
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And a Pack win and Bears win next week, the Bears are in!
only to then go back to san Francisco and get killed again. They are better off missing the playoffs and starting all over with a new coaching staff
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So true. slaphead
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I think it will be Denver and Green Bay in the Superbowl.
Maybe one day I will be able to say with a straight face that I think it will be the Browns in the Superbowl.
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Maybe one day I will be able to say with a straight face that I think it will be the Browns in the Superbowl.
That's what 'Larry the Cable Guy' calls going 'big potty'. rflmao1 rflmao1
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Minn and Detroit both win next week. Just saying.
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Minn and Detroit both win next week. Just saying.
I think you are right
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Minn and Detroit both win next week. Just saying.
I'm going with the opposite. GB & Chicago.
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Bears do not deserve to be in it , poor (head) coaching and offensive line.
Seattle and Denver have looked impressive and flying under the radar for most of the year. Could be some surprises
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Bears do not deserve to be in it , poor (head) coaching and offensive line.
Seattle and Denver have looked impressive and flying under the radar for most of the year. Could be some surprises
Seattle will not win a road playoff game.
Denver may be the team to beat, although i think it's the Pats, but Peyton does not have an impressive playoff career. Don't sell the Ravens short when Ray Lewis returns.
Bears could do some damage if they make it to post-season but only if Urlacher can play at full strength. But with that OL, I agree that it would be tough to beat teams like SF, GB or Atl.
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Seattle will not win a road playoff game.
Don't sell the Ravens short when Ray Lewis returns.
Sure looks like Seattle will be traveling to Washington or Dallas in the first round , i don't give either of those 2 teams a shot in hell of beating Seattle. (and yes i know they're 3-5 on the road)
Not sure if there is a better team in football right now winning their last 3 games by a score of 150 -30
They have wins over Green Bay ,New England ,Minnesota,Dallas and San Francisco (all at home)
My prediction is that they will go on the road and knockoff either Washington or Dallas in the first round and then win on the road in Atlanta in the 2nd and hope they can get San Fran in the NFC Title Game (because they won't beat GB on the road in the cold)
You're giving Ray Lewis way too much credit .
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They have wins over Green Bay ,New England ,Minnesota,Dallas and San Francisco (all at home)
My prediction is that they will go on the road and knockoff either Washington or Dallas in the first round and then win on the road in Atlanta in the 2nd and hope they can get San Fran in the NFC Title Game (because they won't beat GB on the road in the cold)
You're giving Ray Lewis way too much credit .
Road losses to St.L, SF, Mia, Az & Det. I'm pretty sure they won't be playing at Buffalo in the playoffs. Their score looks more impressive than their offense is. Russel Wilson has thrown for 504 yards combined in those 3 games. Stop Lynch (like the Dolphins did) & Seattle is toast. While its true that Wash or Dall are vulnerable against virtually anyone, had the Seahawks not been totally handed the GB game, they'd still be fighting for a playoff spot.
As far as Ray Lewis goes, he's undoubtedly the best defensive player over the last 15 years. I cannot give him enough credit. He is the spiritual leader on & off the field. He will be remembered as one of the truly great LBs & a one-of-a-kind in an era where it became most difficult for a defensive player to have an impact.
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Not too bad for a guy who shoulda been in jail.
Just a minor correction as well, they weren't playing in Buffalo a couple weeks ago, it was a "home" game for the Bills. In Toronto. idunno
The rest is pretty spot on, I'm not sold on these Shithawks just yet.
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The interesting thing in the NFC is although you might think it is wide open, you have 3 solid, playoff-experience teams with good coaching - GB, SF, Atl. And in the AFC you have the same - NE, Den & Bal.
How far will the defenses take these teams or will it be the QBs who dominate? And if the Bears get in, which side do they fit into?
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The interesting thing in the NFC is although you might think it is wide open, you have 3 solid, playoff-experience teams with good coaching - GB, SF, Atl.
Since 2010 the Falcons are 0-2 the 49ers 1-1 and the Seahawks 1-1 in the playoffs .
Should be interesting to see how Kaepernick and Wilson handle the playoff pressure.
Will Mike Smith finally win a playoff game ?
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Will Mike Smith finally win a playoff game ?
The Falcons will win their 1st playoff game. They'll have the week off, a home game against one of the lessor foes & are hungry for that win for Smith & Ryan. The championship game will be a whole different story when they will likely face the winner of the 49er/Packer game.
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The interesting thing in the NFC is although you might think it is wide open, you have 3 solid, playoff-experience teams with good coaching - GB, SF, Atl. And in the AFC you have the same - NE, Den & Bal.
How far will the defenses take these teams or will it be the QBs who dominate? And if the Bears get in, which side do they fit into?
SF isn't as good as you think they are
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SF isn't as good as you think they are
It depends. If you mean they're not reliable, I agree. One week they look like world beaters & the next week they just look beaten. The Patriot game is a microcosm - looked unbeatable the 1st 1/2 and then just fall apart the 2nd 1/2 but still win. Plus they're young QB makes them very susceptible.
Bottom line is any of those 3 teams who play up to their capability would be in the Super Bowl.
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It depends. If you mean they're not reliable, I agree. One week they look like world beaters & the next week they just look beaten. The Patriot game is a microcosm - looked unbeatable the 1st 1/2 and then just fall apart the 2nd 1/2 but still win. Plus they're young QB makes them very susceptible.
Bottom line is any of those 3 teams who play up to their capability would be in the Super Bowl.
their QB is not ready to get them that trophy this year
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their QB is not ready to get them that trophy this year
he has played one bad game. Last week at a place that Tom Brady, and Arron Rodgers lost this year. I won't hold that against him. They weren't going to win with Alex Smith. Not having Justin Smith could be their biggest problem, not their QB.
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he has played one bad game. Last week at a place that Tom Brady, and Arron Rodgers lost this year. I won't hold that against him. They weren't going to win with Alex Smith. Not having Justin Smith could be their biggest problem, not their QB.
Pezz,
I respect you lots but it's more than Smith. Davis had a concussion last week and while he's not 100% I expect him to play this weekend. Mannigham is on IR and that hurts them. Randy Moss is no longer the great Randy Moss.
People think since they beat New England they are great but New England is flawed defensively and they lost to Arizona this year while barely beating the Jets, Buffalo, Miami and Jacksonville. New England is 11 - 4 but they had 9 cupcakes on their schedule. Two games each vs. Buffalo, Miami and the Jets plus Arizona, the Lambs and Jacksonville. Why not play Long Beach High School?
If SF has to have to have their QB win the game I think they are in trouble. No great team loses like they did last week although they were in the game until the opening kick off.
They need that division title much more than Seattle. Seattle is hot and doesn't have the injury issues.
SF has the talent but when things don't go their way they implode, look how they folded their tent vs. Seattle last week and the Giants earlier this year not to mention Chicago. And to add something else in, they also lost to the Lambs.
Atlanta, Seattle and Green Bay are much more dangerous teams, especially at home. San Francisco desperately needs home field as long as they can go.
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Pezz,
I respect you lots but it's more than Smith. Davis had a concussion last week and while he's not 100% I expect him to play this weekend. Mannigham is on IR and that hurts them. Randy Moss is no longer the great Randy Moss.
People think since they beat New England they are great but New England is flawed defensively and they lost to Arizona this year while barely beating the Jets, Buffalo, Miami and Jacksonville. New England is 11 - 4 but they had 9 cupcakes on their schedule. Two games each vs. Buffalo, Miami and the Jets plus Arizona, the Lambs and Jacksonville. Why not play Long Beach High School?
If SF has to have to have their QB win the game I think they are in trouble. No great team loses like they did last week although they were in the game until the opening kick off.
They need that division title much more than Seattle. Seattle is hot and doesn't have the injury issues.
SF has the talent but when things don't go their way they implode, look how they folded their tent vs. Seattle last week and the Giants earlier this year not to mention Chicago. And to add something else in, they also lost to the Lambs.
Atlanta, Seattle and Green Bay are much more dangerous teams, especially at home. San Francisco desperately needs home field as long as they can go.
against what is considered one of the best defense's in the bears. Capernick proceeded to put 30 on them and didn't punt till the 3rd quarter. They have won at Green Bay already, the Giants aren't making the playoffs, so who do they have to worry about? Themselves. Without Smith, the last 6 quarters, their D has given up 76 points, that is there biggest concern and he has a torn Bicep so I doubt he plays again. There are no Dominant teams this year and San Fran does not have to go to Seattle again
Seattle is going to have to go to Washington, IMo, and they will not get by RG111 In round one
Seattle needs a miracle to ever host a playoff game. On the road for the whole journey which I think will be one game
Cmon Seattle lost to Miami on the road, Now they are world beaters??? Please!!! Shit they lost to Arizona. They are one and done.
The final 4 will be the 4 division winners in the NFC. The wild card teams have no chance. I think the same in the AFC.
And I Still think San Fran is the best in the NFC
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Seattle is going to have to go to Washington, IMo, and they will not get by RG111 In round one
I wouldn't be so sure about that !!
Washington better worry about making the playoffs first.
Imo , Dallas or Washington have zero shot against Seattle in the first round.
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Pezz,
I respectfully disagree with you on Seattle and SF.
No way SF gets by either GB or Atlanta on the road in the shape they're in.
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Atlanta will be lucky to win 1 playoff game.
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Pezz & JJ,
This is great NFL conversation. You both need to keep in mind that virtually every team loses to a cupcake along the way.
JJ, just as you made a case against NE, they are the only team in the league that did not lose a single game by more than 1 score. Their early season losses to Bal, Az & Sea were all blown leads. And 2 of those games were decided by FG kicks on the last play. They pounded Houston, Denver, & Indy, all playoff teams. I don't see how you can point to strength of schedule & not start with Denver who lost to NE, Hou & Atl. Denver is 10-0 vs. teams with losing records.
Pezz, I understand JJs case against Kaepernick, a first year player. They tend to be unreliable in their early playoff career. But you're right about Justin Smith. SF seems to have many strong defensive players but their depth is not there. And you are giving Washington too much credit. They lucked out to get passed a poor Philly team last week while Dallas faced an improved NO team who lit up their defense. RGIII is in the same boat as Kaepernick & I think Dallas will win in DC Sunday.
Gazoo, you have fallen in love with a great home team who has to prove they can win on the road + a coach who doesn't win playoff games + a rookie QB who hasn't shown that he can light it up.
Cashman, I think Atlanta will be very ready for at least one playoff win. Allot of talent & plenty of leadership too.
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Seattle on the road this year...
Loss 20-16 Arizona
Loss 19-13 St Louis
Win 16-12 Carolina
Loss 13-6 San Fran
Loss 28-24 Detroit
Loss 24-21 Miami
Win 23-17 ot Chicago
The game against Buffalo "on the road" doesn't even count, since it was played at a neutral site. So basically 2-5 on the road, losing to 4 teams that aren't close to making the playoffs. And they shouldn't have beat the Bears, the Bears gave that game away.
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Seattle on the road this year...
Loss 20-16 Arizona - and the very next week Arz beat New England @NE
Loss 19-13 St Louis - St Louis beat San Fran and Washington at home
Win 16-12 Carolina - beat Washington , Atlanta, New Orleans at home
Loss 13-6 San Fran - lost on the road to Seattle ,Minnesota,St Louis
Loss 28-24 Detroit - scored with 20 seconds left to beat Seattle
Loss 24-21 Miami - I really don't think Miami is that bad but they did score 17 points in the last 8 min of the game to get the win.
Win 23-17 ot Chicago - For a rookie QB to take his team 97yrds with 24 seconds left to take the lead on the road ain't too shabby.
How can you say the game against Buffalo wasn't a road game ? they played in Toronto, Ontario , i doubt if many Seattle fans drove 37hrs to the game.
Playing on the road won't be the reason Seattle gets beat in the playoffs it will be Wilson if anything .(unless its in GB then i give them no shot)
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when the packers win this weekend and secure the #2 seed i think they will win the nfc and play for it all in the super bowl
yes this is homer mike the packer fan talking here rflmao1
but let's be real here who has played thru more injuries this year than the pack ?
the extra week off will help those who are still hurt
the packers defense is good enuff to keep them in any game
the offense has never really been stopped imo the coach has made some conservative calls over the season to get ready for the playoffs
the pack have already won in atlanta in the past so that will not be a problem
imo the biggest test is this week because if they lose to the vikes they have to turn right around and play them again
which is not a good thing
GO PACKERS !
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I pretty much agree, Tross. If they can't beat Minnesota, then they fall into the same lull as SF.
Funny how all the talk about the Vikings is Peterson breaking Dickerson's record. I'm thinking the Vikes' game plan is to try to go deep early. Minny is pretty much no match for GB unless Pack hands it them (turnovers).
This should be an all out game for both teams & The Pack is much the better team & really should win by at least 10 pts.
So this is not their "biggest test". SF can match up against anyone & Atl does have dome field advantage.
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Did someone say Cupcakes?!?!
With Hostess gone ~ don't tease me ;D
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Did someone say Cupcakes?!?!
With Hostess gone ~ don't tease me ;D
the foods may be purchased out of bankruptcy
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i miss the beefsteak rye bread and the off brand rye bread also
they made
the off brand used to be $1.69 a loaf and now the replacement costs $2.19 and is a smaller loaf 4pezz2 4pezz2
might have to give up milk if it goes to $6-8 a gal like they say
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Colin Kaepernick's 1 for 4 for 5 yards in the first quarter may be OK for the Jets but won't get the job done vs. the Cardinals.
This is a must win game for SF or they'll be home early in the postseason.
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Colin Kaepernick's 1 for 4 for 5 yards in the first quarter may be OK for the Jets but won't get the job done vs. the Cardinals.
This is a must win game for SF or they'll be home early in the postseason.
4-7 102 yards and a td...are you happy now?
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4-7 102 yards and a td...are you happy now?
it's better, the team desperately needs the game
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it's better, the team desperately needs the game
Yeah well there are a lot of desperate teams right now playing bad. Packers win and they get home field, losing. Seattle needs a win at home if San Fran loses to win the division, currently losing. It's not Kaepernick's fault David Akers keeps missing field goal after field goal.
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Okay, I think we got some answers today.
In the AFC, we can just skip the next 2 weeks & all gather around the TV to watch Peyton vs. Brady for the Super Bowl appearance. There are NO NFL fans who want a different match-up other than those who are Ravens, Texans or Colts fans. Even the 17 Bengals fans want to see that!
In the NFC, The Pack will need to find a real defense if they're going to get to New Orleans. Yeah, they'll get revenge next week when the team from Minnesota gets too cold to play in a real football stadium but then they have to come up with some answers against SF. And we'll soon find out where Seattle's season will end, Washington or Dallas.
Black Monday may come early with Shurmur & Reid racing to the podium. Reid will shed a tear which is what Eagles' fans must have done all day today.
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Seattle will win their first playoff game, Dolfan
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I disagree Jeremy, Skins beat them next week at home and have a great chance to then go to Atlanta and win. Atlanta is a farce and will be 1 and done again. The Redskins Defense is the most improved defense in the last 7 weeks. Not saying it is a top tier defense, but they keep making plays when they have to
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I too think the Skins will handle the Seahawks. I'm not sold on RGIII or Russell Wilson & I like Atlanta in the Divisional round. Skins managed to catch some more luck today with the Cowboys' WRs all going down but the coaching in Dallas is just horrendous. More good karma next week with the pathetic road team that the Hawks are.
Packer secondary will butch-up next week as they don't want to be that embarrassed in front of the home field fans. Aaron Rodgers is just amazing. Would love to see him in the Super Bowl against Peyton or Tom.
Things are beginning to narrow as we now know who the top 2 in the AFC are & it seems like Seattle, Minnesota & Washington won't be around much longer.
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Lines for next week playoff games.
HOUSTON TEXANS - 5 43 1/2 CINCINNATI BENGALS
GREEN BAY PACKERS -8 46 MINNESOTA VIKINGS
BALTIMORE RAVENS - 6 1/2 46 1/2 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - 1 37 WASHINGTON REDSKINS
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The Redskins Defense is the most improved defense in the last 7 weeks. Not saying it is a top tier defense, but they keep making plays when they have to
The Skins let up 20 or more points 13 times this year .
The Skins have the number #1 ranked rushing attack in the league going up against Seattle's # 4 ranked defense .
If Wilson doesn't turn the ball over i think the Hawks are a lock just because the Skins secondary is horrendous.
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Lines for next week playoff games.
HOUSTON TEXANS - 5 43 1/2 CINCINNATI BENGALS
GREEN BAY PACKERS -8 46 MINNESOTA VIKINGS
BALTIMORE RAVENS - 6 1/2 46 1/2 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - 1 37 WASHINGTON REDSKINS
For those of you wagering, go the opposite ways of these picks :D
I like the Bengals, Packers, Ravens, and Redskins
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The Skins let up 20 or more points 13 times this year .
The Skins have the number #1 ranked rushing attack in the league going up against Seattle's # 4 ranked defense .
If Wilson doesn't turn the ball over i think the Hawks are a lock just because the Skins secondary is horrendous.
We've got the message loud & clear that you are on the Seahawk bandwagon. My personal opinion is that the line of Sea by 1 on the road is just plain ridiculous. We all know what their road record looks like.
Pezz, when was the last time the Bengals won a road playoff game? I'm leaning Houston there with Foster & Andre getting it done at home.
Packers, Ravens & Skins I agree. So, everyone should be betting opposite of our agreed picks, for certain!
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I don't know the last time the Bengals won a road playoff game, but their Defense is for real, and the Texans are a complete mess.
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They looked terrible yesterday against the Colts, and they've looked shaky the last few games.
Denver is just steam rolling these jabroni teams, but I wonder how they'll fare against a tougher opponent. I wouldn't mind seeing Peyton getting it done.
I'm a Bengals fan but I don't think they have what it takes to contend this year, and I'd be surprised if they got past the Texans. I hope they do of course, but I won't be holding my breath. Should be an exciting game nonetheless.
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I don't know the last time the Bengals won a road playoff game, but their Defense is for real, and the Texans are a complete mess.
If I'm not mistaken, the answer is never.
According to what I can see, the Bengals have won 5 playoff games: 1981 at home vs. SD & Buf, 1988 at home vs. Sea & Buf & 1990 at home vs. Oilers.
I don't think the Texans are that messed up, losing late in the season to a bunch of playoff teams. I'll stay with history.
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We've got the message loud & clear that you are on the Seahawk bandwagon. My personal opinion is that the line of Sea by 1 on the road is just plain ridiculous. We all know what their road record looks like.
And we got your message loud & clear that your not , im definitely not on the Seahawks bandwagon .
I just think its asinine to sit here and post after post and say that they have no shot at winning like you say.
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And we got your message loud & clear that your not , im definitely not on the Seahawks bandwagon .
I just think its asinine to sit here and post after post and say that they have no shot at winning like you say.
"Asinine" is a tough word to spell right. Honestly, spell check, right? rflmao1
(I have attorney friends who can't spell "tough"!)
Yes, I've been known to take a position & stick with it. To me though, Minny is the big fraud this year. I still can't figure how they got through that game yesterday without a single turnover.
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"Asinine" is a tough word to spell right. Honestly, spell check, right? rflmao1
DAnG wHIt YOu CauGHT mE slaphead
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Seattle -2.5 now where I play.
Texans -4
Packers -7.5
Baltimore -6.5
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"Asinine" is a tough word to spell right. Honestly, spell check, right? rflmao1
(I have attorney friends who can't spell "tough"!)
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