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Title: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on December 18, 2012, 03:45:26 PM
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/75104/adw-illegal-in-illinois-effective-jan-1
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: NIATROSS on December 18, 2012, 06:34:17 PM


 rflmao1 thumbsdown
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: LVGaryD on December 18, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
Only because the thieving politicians are probably on the casinos' payroll.  birdienana
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on December 18, 2012, 08:09:55 PM
I am thinking it will be like it was before this bill was created. People in Illinois will still be able to bet online, just not on Illinois product. Guess I will be breaking the law come Jan 1 again
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: Just Saying on December 18, 2012, 08:16:07 PM
I am thinking it will be like it was before this bill was created. People in Illinois will still be able to bet online, just not on Illinois product. Guess I will be breaking the law come Jan 1 again
If I was a gambler I'd fire away too.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: careless hal on December 18, 2012, 08:25:17 PM
Might be time to findanother hobby. thumbsdown thumbsdown thumbsdown
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: Just Saying on December 18, 2012, 08:46:43 PM
Might be time to findanother hobby. thumbsdown thumbsdown thumbsdown
Maybe you & I could join a Ballet Troupe. We'd look great in a Tutu!
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on December 18, 2012, 08:50:29 PM
If this is like before this law went into effect, it won't hurt me. The people it will hurt are the people who like to bet Illinois racing at home and the horseman of both breeds as they won't be getting their cut.

Where is Old And Slow to Confirm this ????
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: careless hal on December 18, 2012, 08:52:23 PM
Maybe you & I could join a Ballet Troupe. We'd look great in a Tutu!

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1  I don't know about ballet, but I might dust off my boots and take up line dancing again!!
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: Just Saying on December 18, 2012, 08:58:11 PM
rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1  I don't know about ballet, but I might dust off my boots and take up line dancing again!!
Not after seeing Brokeback Mountain... I'm afraid of cowboys.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: old and slow on December 19, 2012, 05:12:16 AM
This is one of those fixes I can't believe this state gets itself into. Moe, Larry, Curly stuff.

The current ADW law expires 1/1 as has been noted. There are rumors that one or more may continue to operate as usual. These are just rumors.

Pezz, I will try to find out the legality of operating as they did before the law was passed.   I'm not convinced that legalities will  play a role in what happens.  It could be destined for court.  One ADW in particular likes suing states, has a couple going now. It's initials are Twin Spires.

It's going to be interesting come the first of the year.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on December 19, 2012, 05:50:09 AM
This is one of those fixes I can't believe this state gets itself into. Moe, Larry, Curly stuff.

The current ADW law expires 1/1 as has been noted. There are rumors that one or more may continue to operate as usual. These are just rumors.

Pezz, I will try to find out the legality of operating as they did before the law was passed.   I'm not convinced that legalities will  play a role in what happens.  It could be destined for court.  One ADW in particular likes suing states, has a couple going now. It's initials are Twin Spires.

It's going to be interesting come the first of the year.
Thanks
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on January 09, 2013, 07:56:46 AM
Got this email today. I expect the other companies will be following suit tomorrow. These guys are a f**king joke.


     
Dear Robert,

The Illinois Racing Board has instructed ALL licensed account wagering companies to cease accepting wagers from Illinois residents until further notice. The law authorizing account wagering recently expired and has not been renewed.

Effective Thursday morning, January 10th, Illinois customers will no longer be allowed to wager through TVG.

TVG's website will remain available to access funds and view or purchase handicapping information however wagering will not be allowed.

We apologize for this inconvenience and remain hopeful the law will be renewed in the near future.

Sincerely,

TVG Customer Service Team
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: tonyb147 on January 09, 2013, 08:58:57 AM
Last Saturday I noticed I couldn't bet Balmoral with Twin Spires. Now I can't bet at all? Oh well I will just empty my account and spend it in Vegas.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: The Giss on January 09, 2013, 09:47:02 AM
So, the ADWs continued doing business illegally, until receiving an official position from the Illinois Racing Board?

I can provide an Ohio address for anyone who wants to move at a very reasonable fee. 4pezz2
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: NIATROSS on January 09, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
looks to me like nothting was more important during the lame duck session than passing a bill to give drivers licenses to undocumented aliens

Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: LVGaryD on January 09, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
It is very simple to get an address that is out of state. For example, a p.o. box at a place willing to forward to your other address. Just make certain you pick a state with no income taxes, i.e. Florida.

 thumbsup
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on January 09, 2013, 03:05:04 PM
Looks Like Twinspires, and Xpressbet will continue


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/75456/adw-companies-stop-taking-wagers-in-illinois
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: The Skipper on January 09, 2013, 03:11:25 PM
Last Saturday I noticed I couldn't bet Balmoral with Twin Spires. Now I can't bet at all? Oh well I will just empty my account and spend it in Vegas.
I'm just curious, what airline are you using to get there ?  idunno
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on January 09, 2013, 03:15:47 PM
I'm just curious, what airline are you using to get there ?  idunno
rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: tonyb147 on January 09, 2013, 04:58:22 PM
I'm just curious, what airline are you using to get there ?  idunno

Got a great deal! Flying into Denver then driving a rental down to Vegas.

 birdienana
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: careless hal on January 09, 2013, 06:35:38 PM
Got a great deal! Flying into Denver then driving a rental down to Vegas.

 birdienana

I've driven from Denver to Vegas----It's a long drive!  Nice scenery though!! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: LVGaryD on January 09, 2013, 06:44:53 PM
I've driven from Denver to Vegas----It's a long drive!  Nice scenery though!! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Only about 13 hours. Not bad but I hate the mountains, thus I go 40 east to 44 north to 70 east..
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: CyberChamp on January 09, 2013, 07:43:49 PM
I was able to make a wager on Dover today through TwinSpires.  Let's see how long they hold out.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: Just Saying on January 09, 2013, 08:04:48 PM
IL is like living in Disneyworld without the funny cartoon characters.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: CyberChamp on January 09, 2013, 08:09:28 PM
We were better off in the Capone era.
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: pezz97 on January 09, 2013, 09:38:57 PM
I was able to make a wager on Dover today through TwinSpires.  Let's see how long they hold out.
Pops emailed them today and they say they will continue as usual. The exception is no May/Balmoral. For us, not a big deal lol
Title: Re: Only In Illinois. Jan 1st, ADW will be Illegal
Post by: careless hal on January 09, 2013, 11:00:20 PM
At least Twinspires carries the Balmoral feed, so I can watch at home.  Am only a few minutes from the OTB, but when there are late scratches and you can't change your ticket, it sucks.
Maybe, iI will venture a few bets on the Big M this weekend.  About the only stategy I have is to expect the unexpected.