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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Elgin on October 04, 2012, 12:22:16 PM
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The connections of Archangel have decided to have Tetrick drive their colt in the Ky Futurity instead of regular pilot Jim Morrill Jr. They describe it as a business decision: Morrill has been very successful with the colt, but TT is the hottest driver around.
Archangel drew the eight post in the Night of Champions SS final at YR a couple of weeks ago, and to make matters worse, it was raining hard during the race. Morrill was trying to get him into contention when he broke on the last turn. It wasn
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If you race your stock regularly on that NYSS circuit, Morrill isn
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I hope Archangel breaks right out of the gate.
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I hope Archangel breaks right out of the gate.
Why?? These guys choose off all the time but to be damned if one of them gets yanked, thats nonsense.
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I like Tim Tetrick, but no way in hell would I take off Jim Morrill Jr., ever, ever.
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I like Tim Tetrick, but no way in hell would I take off Jim Morrill Jr., ever, ever.
Timmy is awesome but Jimmy won lots of races for them this year
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I thought it was a bad steer on a horse that laid over his competition.
Gotta go with LB46 on this - Morrill would drop him in a heartbeat if a better offer came along.
And I always say if you can get one of the Top 5, you take him.
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I like little Brown Fox and Guccio
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Business is business. If you can get the best driver on the planet, you get the best driver on the planet.
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And for the first time all year, Archangel beats the big boys
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Yeah, Archangel beat Fogelberg around the track in the final--only because that one jumped and got distanced. Angel was sent off the favorite and TT drove him like he was the best. Easy first half, too. Folded like a piece of paper at mid-stretch. Maybe Timmy didn't know him well enough.
Morrill finished third with 40/1 shot, Another Amaretto. Good for him.
Do you think Timmy will be jumping at the chance to drive Archangel in the BC?
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Yeah, Archangel beat Fogelberg around the track in the final--only because that one jumped and got distanced. Angel was sent off the favorite and TT drove him like he was the best. Easy first half, too. Folded like a piece of paper at mid-stretch. Maybe Timmy didn't know him well enough.
Morrill finished third with 40/1 shot, Another Amaretto. Good for him.
Do you think Timmy will be jumping at the chance to drive Archangel in the BC?
Yeah he is going to jump off of Market Share! :o
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Very poor move by the connections of Archangel. Take off Morrill for one drive and then expect him to jump back up as if nothing happened? Many smarter people than me were shaking their heads talking about this yesterday at The Red Mile.
Was good to see him not get a check in the final though. And Ray Schnittker-well I see why he hates two heats. His horses can't go two heats.
rflmao1
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Why?? These guys choose off all the time but to be damned if one of them gets yanked, thats nonsense.
I agree, drivers jump ship all the time and its no big deal but when a trainer or owner makes a change it
becomes news ? idunno
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I agree, drivers jump ship all the time and its no big deal but when a trainer or owner makes a change it
becomes news ? idunno
It became news because the connections were talking to harnessracing.com, HRU and other news outlets about it. I don't believe Morrill made any public statements about it.
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I agree, drivers jump ship all the time and its no big deal but when a trainer or owner makes a change it
becomes news ? idunno
When a horse has 15 starts, ten wins, two or three seconds, and $700k+ on his card, it is beyond ignorant to change drivers.
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When a horse has 15 starts, ten wins, two or three seconds, and $700k+ on his card, it is beyond ignorant to change drivers.
Bullshit !! If a better horse came along or any horse Morrill thought was better he
would not hesitate to take that horse. I don't even know why the connections made
any mention of it, that makes no sense to me. This is 2012 not 1974 there is not
much loyalty left in this world. Yanni will take a better horse over a Burke horse
in a New York minute if he thinks the other horse is better and you don't seen any
of them guys on here whining and bitching noway
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I agree, Skipper.
And if you were keeping score, Tetrick won 4, Morrill took the collar. (Lachance, Pierce & Gingras all had 3).
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I don't think Yannick is ever going to pick off of Foiled Again. It's one thing to take a driver off a horse that he was not getting along with. But when you have hit the board in 12 or 13 of his 15 starts including 10 wins, and picking up over $700K along the way, it is something you just don't do.
I also could understand it if Bruce Sturgeon had been driving the horse, but this is a guy with a .420 UDR.
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I do want to clarify something, I never said it was the right move, just that I don't thinks its a big deal. I probably wouldn't have done it in this particular situation but I just think its hypocritical to say that the act of pulling a driver is wrong while them choosing off isn't.
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I gave TT alot of his early drives in Chicago and he always paid off for me. When other trainers with bigger stables saw that they started putting him on their horses. He'd always come to see me and tell me that he was trying to get hooked onto the best stables. I never once got pissy, and I wished him the best. (which is right where he's at)
That being said: I wouldn't have taken Morrill of a horse after he had that kind of success with Archangel. But if it's your horse you get to make the call, good or bad.
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I do want to clarify something, I never said it was the right move, just that I don't thinks its a big deal. I probably wouldn't have done it in this particular situation but I just think its hypocritical to say that the act of pulling a driver is wrong while them choosing off isn't.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, I do think TT gave him the best chance to win & he could've been in the lead for 3 yo Trotter of the Year if he'd held on in the final. And TT gave him every chance to do that. It's all speculation but you can't know if Morrill would've won the 1st heat. The owner had every right to discover if his horse truly was the best.
And Morrill is not exactly the poster child for the sport anyway. Moe like the Master of Mattress Money.
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And Morrill has the drive back for the breeders Crown Elims
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I thought it was a bad steer on a horse that laid over his competition.
Gotta go with LB46 on this - Morrill would drop him in a heartbeat if a better offer came along.
And I always say if you can get one of the Top 5, you take him.
This is probably the closest to the truth you will ever get!! thumbsup
The drivers have no loyalty anymore , unless it's a father/son combo.
You go with what ever is in YOUR best interest, period!!
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This is probably the closest to the truth you will ever get!! thumbsup
The drivers have no loyalty anymore , unless it's a father/son combo.
You go with what ever is in YOUR best interest, period!!
This next post proves that!
And Morrill has the drive back for the breeders Crown Elims