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Title: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Elgin on October 01, 2012, 06:49:37 PM
Schadt appeals DQ of Odds On Equuleus   
October 01, 2012
   
Harnessracing.com has learned that trainer Robin Schadt has filed an appeal in the ruling of the disqualification of her horse Odds On Equuleus from first to last in a division of the Bluegrass for 2-year-old colt pacers last Saturday night at The Red Mile. Schadt filed the paperwork herself Monday at the offices of the Kentucky Racing Commission located at the Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington.
Odds On Equuleus finished first in his division for driver John Campbell, but the judges posted the "inquiry" sign as the presentation of the trophy and winner's circle photo were being done. After a delay that lasted approximately 15 minutes, the horse's number was taken down and second-place finisher Rockin Amadeus was moved to first, with all other starters moving up a position in the order. The judges ruled that Campbell abruptly took hold of his horse in the final turn, which caused confusion among the trailing horses, including two that made breaks. The third quarter paced on the lead by Odds On Equuleus was officially timed in :28.4.
The appeal by Schadt, who also shares ownership with Dana Parham as Odds On Racing, will now go before a hearing officer on a yet-to-be-scheduled date. The hearing officer will then make a decision on either upholding the ruling, overturning the ruling, or modifying to the ruling, with that recommendation then going before the Kentucky Racing Commission.
The track judges, Rich Williams, Anthony Clark and Dan Ross, will only be involved in the hearing process as their testimony is required. They will not be involved any further in any decision that will be made. Also, although some jurisdictions require a fee for an appeal, Kentucky does not require any fee.
(harnessracing.com)
   

Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Just Saying on October 01, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
I'll be surprised if the ruling is overturned, but it damn sure should be. A 28 second qtr is 'taking up abruptly'?  shootme
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: careless hal on October 01, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
The DQ was total BS.  It was a black eye for harness racing.  The horse should get the money and the win. The poor bettors are just screwed.
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: pezz97 on October 01, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
The DQ was total BS.  It was a black eye for harness racing.  The horse should get the money and the win. The poor bettors are just screwed.
Exactly. The worst call I have seen since I have been playing this game
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: caveman on October 01, 2012, 10:51:57 PM
Dan Ross.......is this the same Dan Ross from Nfld ??
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Dolfan on October 01, 2012, 11:50:32 PM
Anybody have a link to replay?
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: careless hal on October 02, 2012, 03:28:51 AM
http://youtu.be/XgCy_yU86Y0

Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: AmyHollar on October 02, 2012, 03:38:36 AM
Dan Ross.......is this the same Dan Ross from Nfld ??

Yes, Cavey
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Elgin on October 02, 2012, 04:05:39 AM
http://www.drf.com/news/bergman-judges-got-it-wrong-odds-equuleus-disqualification
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: LVGaryD on October 02, 2012, 05:23:53 AM
Jay Bergman,  bowdown bowdown. You say it much more eloquently than old Gary D.  rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: MichiganDale on October 02, 2012, 06:57:59 AM
I too have watched the replay umpteen times trying to see what caused this DQ and its just not there.   I can understand 'sitting down abruptly' in front of a field and jamming things up but that didn't happen.   I always felt the idea of running a race is to win it - evidently not though!     I wish Robin and the connections well in this appeal process.   Like JS said, it probably won't be overturned but if there ever was valid reason to overturn a decision, this certainly is it.  Very very bad call from my perspective.
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Mags on October 02, 2012, 10:04:55 AM
watched the race in question without a wager and it sure seemed to me that Sears screwed the field up with his indecision on whether to pull or not..sometimes harness racing cant seem to get out of its own way..more bettors lost due to this I would presume
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Dolfan on October 02, 2012, 10:05:42 AM
This "rule" is one of my biggest complaints with the entire sport.  You may recall a DQ at YR on Brent Holland as his tons the best trotter got out to a fast 28.2(?) lead & as Brent slowed the pace 97 year-old Cat manzi, laying 5th, ran up on someone & broke.  I was so disgusted with the DQ I didn't go to the track for 3 months!

This one is at least as bad.

I will once again quote (paraphrase) Bill Haughton who also hated the rule: "If the frontrunner is going too slow it is the job of the other drivers to go after him, not the fault of the fellow trying to win".

Good luck to Robin in her bid for justice.
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: TW on October 02, 2012, 10:50:50 AM
It would really be nice if they'd pay me the tickets I threw away when Campbell was DQ'ed...$2 superfecta, $2 trifecta, $10 exacta.  That race was teh beginning of a mostly dry spell for me at the Red Mile last Saturday.
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Cableguy on October 02, 2012, 02:51:25 PM
Nothing for anyone else to say, it's already all been said.
Worst call in a long time. Hope they win the appeal, problem is too many people piss in the same pot... Would be more of a fuss if they overturned than if not.
Shame on them
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: careless hal on October 02, 2012, 07:20:00 PM
Funny, I was sitting next to Robin at the track last week and now she is embroiled in all this contoversy.  You never know what the next day will bring.   idunno idunno idunno
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Dolfan on October 02, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
Funny, I was sitting next to Robin at the track last week and now she is embroiled in all this contoversy.  You never know what the next day will bring.   idunno idunno idunno

... wearing one of her funny little hats, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: careless hal on October 03, 2012, 12:52:53 AM
Actually, no, hat!  Had a on a nice jeans outfit, one of those designer types.
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: Elgin on October 04, 2012, 07:21:34 AM
I understand why the racing commission will probably wait until the conclusion of the GC meet and the sale, when The Red Mile will fade from consciousness for another year, to rule on this. But wouldn
Title: Re: Schadt Appeals Odds On Equuleus DQ
Post by: beans and weenies on October 04, 2012, 07:35:05 PM
Elgin you are losing it.   ;)  This will not be ruled on for way over a year or more. .  and you will have a hard time even trying to find out which way it went if you don't know the parties involved.