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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Elgin on June 12, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
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Googoo Gaagaa, the lightly staked Cams Rocket trotter that won the Simpson a month ago, is entered in the first Beal elimination at Pocono on Friday.
He
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Finaly get to see what hes made of.
This will be followed closely by the Yonkers trot and the Dancer.
After that dunno where he will go.
If hes good in Oct I would assume will pay the 67,000$ to get into the breeders crown.
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Goo Goo's only competition is Little Brown Fox. I think he rolls again
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Goo Goo's only competition is Little Brown Fox. I think he rolls again
Uncle peter in the final is going to be good.
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Uncle peter in the final is going to be good.
Agree
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Goo goo is a 7-2 morning line?
Is it like chester when they gave him a 9/2 and he went off 3/5? or can I get something near 7/2?
I complained last week when he was a 2-1 morning line and went off 1-5. But the chester lines always suck. This is one of the problems with the sport. Morning lines are now a joke and no one puts any effort into them. It hurts the casual fans and the guys who dont follow that particualr track. It used to be a gauge of a horse in some way. It is no more. And I see that as another problem of the many.
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Goo goo is a 7-2 morning line?
Is it like chester when they gave him a 9/2 and he went off 3/5? or can I get something near 7/2?
I complained last week when he was a 2-1 morning line and went off 1-5. But the chester lines always suck. This is one of the problems with the sport. Morning lines are now a joke and no one puts any effort into them. It hurts the casual fans and the guys who dont follow that particualr track. It used to be a gauge of a horse in some way. It is no more. And I see that as another problem of the many.
In the entire 15 race card there are only two horses listed below 5-2, those two being Magic Tonight in the first division of the Beal and Uncle Peter (part of an entry) in the second. In the first division he made Modern Family (1) 5-2 off a win over nw2 at M1, while Little Brown Fox, who just won the $150,000 NJSS final is also 5-2 from the outside post. Frost Bites K, who was second in the Dexter and won a $90,000 Super Bowl division last week at The Meadows is 6-1 from a middle post. And Googoo is 7-2. Weird.
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In the entire 15 race card there are only two horses listed below 5-2, those two being Magic Tonight in the first division of the Beal and Uncle Peter (part of an entry) in the second. In the first division he made Modern Family (1) 5-2 off a win over nw2 at M1, while Little Brown Fox, who just won the $150,000 NJSS final is also 5-2 from the outside post. Frost Bites K, who was second in the Dexter and won a $90,000 Super Bowl division last week at The Meadows is 6-1 from a middle post. And Googoo is 7-2. Weird.
Goo is the 4th horse according to the ML.
The pools there are small so there may be abberations. But I highly doubt you get bove 2-1.
If I could be guarenteed 7-2 on Goo goo Id bet 50 to win.
Anyone wanna book the bet?
7/2 is a bad line probably is my take on it after furthur review.
But there are 14 horses in the elims and 9 goto the finals.
So betting the win maybe not too smart. Dont really need to push too hard to get to the final.
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Here is hoping the ML is right:
http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/smoking-with-the-giss.aspx?articleid=48627&zoneid=94
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Here is hoping the ML is right:
http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/smoking-with-the-giss.aspx?articleid=48627&zoneid=94
great idea!
And good luck.
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And he opens up at 1/9
Glad i didnt attempt to bet this.
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And he opens up at 1/9
Glad i didnt attempt to bet this.
You mean Mr. Gisser is in danger of picking a winner????
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1:51.3 world record. slaphead Congratulations to both the connections and Mr. Gisser for finally picking a winner!
bowdown bowdown bowdown
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3/5 not urged and still not popping the plugs
WOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOW
I saw that horse in person. I am gonna try to get to one of these finals i think
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Too bad they can't supplement him into the Hambo. 4pezz2
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Too bad they can't supplement him into the Hambo. 4pezz2
Agree
Have to settle for the dancer and yonkers trot.
In oct if hes still sharp i assume will pay the 67000 for the breeders crown
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Tough to keep one sharp that long, but would love to see it!
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after the dancer and yonkers really isnt alot for him.
Shuld get time off maybe take a few of the 35000 maryland sire stakes.
use them as training miles
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In the second elimination Takter made the pace with Nothing But Class while Pierce took back with Uncle Peter. That strategy backfired as Palone brushed to the top approaching the second turn with Stormin Normand and was never headed. Pierce was too late and too wide with Uncle Peter. He finished second. The mile went a tick slower than Googaa's.
Googoo Gaagaa
27 56 1:23.3 1:51.3 WR
Stormin Normand
27 55.1 1:23.2 1:51.4
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Their website offers replays if anyone missed it
http://www.poconodowns.com/racing/entries-results.html
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I expect peter and Pierce to be alot closer in the final.
Top 4 made the final tongiht so really wasnt alot of pressure.
Gonna be fun to watch !
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3-year-old trotting colt Googoo Gaagaa rolled to a victory in world record time in an elimination race for the Earl Beal Jr. Memorial Trot on Friday night at Mohegan Sun at Pocono Downs. The race carried a purse of $25,000.
In the first of two eliminations, Googoo Gaagaa, who came into the start with nine wins in ten career races, made the lead with a swooping move around the first turn after leaving from post position #6 in the seven-horse field. Driver Corey Callahan never had to ask the 3-year-old son of Cam
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Takter has three in the final:strategy, strategy, strategy.
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Takter has three in the final:strategy, strategy, strategy.
lol
I feel bad for CC in a way all he can do is mess up like that one time at chester.
If Goo draws anywhere inside at all I think he just goes straight to the top.
Hambo society shuld offer a 100,000$ supplement you add to the purse.
him not being there will cheapen it as he will probably beat every horse in it in one of these series.
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Last year Dejarmbro won the Beal at 8-5 in 52.2. Palone used the exact same strategy he used with Stormin Normand tonight. Broad Bahn and Pastor Stephen battled to the quarter in 27.1, then Palone brushed to the top with Dejarmbro and that was that--he won by two. He never won another open race--only those in the NYSS. Big disappointment.
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lol
I feel bad for CC in a way all he can do is mess up like that one time at chester.
If Goo draws anywhere inside at all I think he just goes straight to the top.
Hambo society shuld offer a 100,000$ supplement you add to the purse.
him not being there will cheapen it as he will probably beat every horse in it in one of these series.
The Hambo will not be cheapened by his absence.
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The Hambo will not be cheapened by his absence.
It wont have the best horse.
They need to change the rules and offer a 100K supplement that goes into the purse so the other horses can win it.
Shame when the best horses are not in the sports premier race.
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This is the only big race that doesn't offer it. You can supplement into any other race but that one. There is the big races in Lexington he can go to as well if they want.
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Two-year-olds can't supplement into the Breeders Crown. That's why Needy wasn't in there last year.
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Two-year-olds can't supplement into the Breeders Crown. That's why Needy wasn't in there last year.
TY, my bad! thumbsup
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Finally got a chance to watch the replay. This horse was so good Friday he might have won with ME driving him.
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Finally got a chance to watch the replay. This horse was so good Friday he might have won with ME driving him.
The passenger didnt even pull plugs or offer any urging.
What did 50$ return at 3/5?
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Check out Archangel (1-9), who won a 70K split of the NYSS at Buffalo today for Jim Morrill. Nice Credit Winner colt--eligible to the Yonlers Trot. His mama is Michelle's Angel, winner of the Bluegrass and the Casual Breeze, and grandma is the outstanding mare, Almost An Angel. Archangel was second to Uncle Peter in the BC elim last year. Lots of NYSS but he's better than that. He's one to watch.
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Loved this arricle
http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/story/_/id/8095638/modern-day-seabiscuit
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Most of the better trotting colts
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Most of the better trotting colts
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Apparently Hans recently turned down $1.3 million from Swedish interests for Googoo. The fact that he
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The Hambo is really the exception and not the rule for these big races. You can supplement into most. And I am betting in a few years they will be offering one too.
But that doesnt help this years race at all.
Goo is #2 in the poll this week.
Same amount of first place votes as the leader. And only 4 points behind the leader.
http://xwebapp.ustrotting.com/absolutenm/templates/article.aspx?articleid=48832&zoneid=1
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Only 5 horses total dropped into the Yonkers trot. So no elim for Googoo and no outside post in the final.
The other 4 are as follows.
Stormin Normand, Archangel, Market Share and Muscolo.
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They must be scared...with very good reason!
bowdown
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Only 5 horses total dropped into the Yonkers trot. So no elim for Googoo and no outside post in the final.
The other 4 are as follows.
Stormin Normand, Archangel, Market Share and Muscolo.
Unfortunately that's the norm for stakes races at YR these days. Only six in--five betting interests--with no eliminations last year. Archangel and Normand are both very good. Market Share won his Goodtimes elimination but was too far back to do anything in the final. Muscolo is no factor.
Most would rather race in the Reynolds over the big track.
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They must be scared...with very good reason!
bowdown
Its $10,000 just to start the elimination then 10,000 for the final.
and if you draw the outside your in BIG trouble there.
Then throw in a horse who is going to be a heavy favorite so you are most likely racing for second at best. And stormin Normand is a super good horse too. So its tough.
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The corresponding Hudson Filly Trot only drew three. In that case Check Me Out will be racing herself.
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Googoo Gaagaa To Be Invited To Nat Ray
By Bill Finley
Trotting sensation Googoo Gaagaa (Cam
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Goos connections need to make sure its a good deal.
They want the horse to be part of that card more than the horse needs to race against older horses.
I am torn on this.
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Goos connections need to make sure its a good deal.
They want the horse to be part of that card more than the horse needs to race against older horses.
I am torn on this.
Agree with you. I'd study long and hard on what's best for the horse before I took the bait on that deal.
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Agree with you. I'd study long and hard on what's best for the horse before I took the bait on that deal.
Appearence fee and maybe a win bonus.
A spot on national TV and a story on the horse on CBS just for starters.
Chapter seven and Arch Madness are tough.
but then again he might just beat them and outshine the hambo winner on hambo day.
Very tough decision and whatever the connections do Ill be ok with.
As a fan would be exciting to see him race on nat tv that day.
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Appearence fee and maybe a win bonus.
A spot on national TV and a story on the horse on CBS just for starters.
Chapter seven and Arch Madness are tough.
but then again he might just beat them and outshine the hambo winner on hambo day.
Very tough decision and whatever the connections do Ill be ok with.
As a fan would be exciting to see him race on nat tv that day.
The horse isn
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Two words. Falcon Seelster.
'Is he gonna diminish his value as a stud? He doesn
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The trotting side has kinda bred itself into a corner, and desperately in need of out-crosses. That's something that made Kadabra so sought after. Googoo's mom is by Veeba Rova who sires some monster trotters in Michigan. (who often beat me at Balmpk) It'll be interesting to see what's in GG's future.
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Two words. Falcon Seelster.
'Is he gonna diminish his value as a stud? He doesn
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The trotting side has kinda bred itself into a corner, and desperately in need of out-crosses. That's something that made Kadabra so sought after. Googoo's mom is by Veeba Rova who sires some monster trotters in Michigan. (who often beat me at Balmpk) It'll be interesting to see what's in GG's future.
Kadabra goes back to Nevele Pride and ultimately Stars Pride on top. Just as McArdle is keeping Bret Hanover from biting top line dust in NA, Kadabra is doing the same for Nevele Pride in NA.
I understand that there's trotting ability on the bottom, but give me a list of the successful trotting stallions who are by pacing stallions from the last forty years.
Googoo is a freak. Revenue was brought over to provide outcross opportunities. How much support did he get? Where is he now?
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The horse isn
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Two words. Falcon Seelster.
'Is he gonna diminish his value as a stud? He doesn
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1 you can supplement into a ton of these races. If he wants.
Goo is holding ALL the cards for hambo day.
Hold out. And the appearence fee should be higher than the winners purse in the Nat Ray.
What is a recent precedent for appearance money? Back in the day Eddie Cobb would play Yonkers off against Roosevelt in search of a hefty bonus for Adios Butler breaking the TR.
Dancer and management at Vernon wanted Albatross to set an all-age mile record at that track, so management put together a $20,000 open with a $5,000 bonus going to the horse that could break the record. Neither the weather nor the field cooperated so the record stood.
Most
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What is a recent precedent for appearance money? Back in the day Eddie Cobb would play Yonkers off against Roosevelt in search of a hefty bonus for Adios Butler breaking the TR.
Dancer and management at Vernon wanted Albatross to set an all-age mile record at that track, so management put together a $20,000 open with a $5,000 bonus going to the horse that could break the record. Neither the weather nor the field cooperated so the record stood.
Most
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1 you can supplement into a ton of these races. If he wants.
Goo is holding ALL the cards for hambo day.
Hold out. And the appearence fee should be higher than the winners purse in the Nat Ray.
Goo is holding all the cards ? rflmao1 rflmao1
If he goes in The Dancer the fans will have already seen him at the Meds.
Pay him an appearance fee and give nothing to Chapter 7 ? Or the others ?
KEEP ON DREAMING HE DESERVES NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
The owner claims to have said he could fly before he even raced and did not spend the $500 or so to be Hambo elgible.
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San Pail's connections say that after the Maple Leaf the gelding's schedule will be pretty much the same as last year. He won the Nat Ray last year. So Gural is going to slip X amount to Googoo Gaagaa just for showing while making the 2011 HOY earn every penny he takes out of there? That would be a tough sell.
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Goo is holding all the cards ? rflmao1 rflmao1
If he goes in The Dancer the fans will have already seen him at the Meds.
Pay him an appearance fee and give nothing to Chapter 7 ? Or the others ?
KEEP ON DREAMING HE DESERVES NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
The owner claims to have said he could fly before he even raced and did not spend the $500 or so to be Hambo elgible.
Absolutely he is .
Gural wants him there more than he needs to race older horses.
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Absolutely he is .
Gural wants him there more than he needs to race older horses.
Gural needs to him there on harness racing's biggest day ?
KEEP ON DREAMING !
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Gural needs to him there on harness racing's biggest day ?
KEEP ON DREAMING !
LOL
yea he wants the #2 horse on the USTA there that day and the #1 sensation in the sport who had an article on ESPN this week. Regular ESPN.
But this is fun. And a good story for the sport.
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After Goo
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No, he won
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I also see no way he would accept the invite if it was extended.