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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2014, 07:35:11 AM »
CJ:

The rematch between those two is this Saturday, race 10.  Won't get anywhere close to those prices.

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 09:41:36 AM »
Glad to see that M1 is now showing $1 pick4 will pays and payouts!  thumbsup

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2014, 04:47:48 PM »
Inside of the building looks like a bus or airport terminal and is too narrow. Not enough tables for handicapping and designed as a party club rather than racetrack.  Too many low lifes still there. Concession stands are way overpriced and Jeff said personally that he is going to make up for the money he lost on concessions at the Meadowlands so good luck considering your handle has dropped like a rock. The worst toteboard you will ever see. Smaller than Freehold and bad coloring and also does not display the WPS of each individual horse. Overall they missed the mark on top of carding awful races. Should have kept the old building and fixed the heat, a/c and the roof. No way Gurals investors spent 90 million on that dump. If it cost a 1/3rd that is still to much.

winner winner chicken dinner.

I know at least 3 other people who are like me and not really interested in going there anymore.

These are people who live here and ive gone to the Big M with at least once a year for the last 10 or so years.

Id rather actually drive 30 minutes further and goto yonkers.
Which is saying a lot as you have to go through a casino maze to even get to the track.


Lots of people are making their trips out to see the new place for the first time and a lot of people are not happy about it.


I goto the track to watch a race. Not goto a restaurant or disco.

The actual watching of a race and finding a place to watch it comfortably was my worst experience of any track ive been to.

If a friend came in from Europe who knew nothing of the sport and I wanted to take them to a horse racing experience Id choose chester over big by a miles.

I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that the restaurants were the key to the new business model.

But the complete lack of looking out for the guy interested in sitting down with a beer and seeing the races with a good sight line is amazing.

Its as if that person isn't even wanted there.

But wth less than 10% of the handle coming from on site it may be part of the business model too.

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2014, 09:44:56 AM »
Someone should call out Jeff Gural for the liar and scammer he truly is. man is a bustout if not for his daddy's trust fun. Same way he says he tosses out cheats yet allows Burke and the rest of the criminals to stay. That's right, a groom pissed in Burkes stall. rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1

The new venue absolutely sucks.

I do think he is trying to do his best.

Some of the stuff like the outrage because Poconos raced the opening weekend and they couldn't get horses is laughable.

They have a sense of entitlement sometimes.

The night I was there they had $9,000 races on a  Saturday. They have $10,000 races at Rosecroft.

Why should Pocono or Yonkers or anyone bend over for them?

IMO the new place is not a destination on any level.


Maybe they should have changed opening night to accommodate the Poconos?

I do think Gural is doing his best.

I am sure whomever designed that venue did it to maximize the profits for him. I can agree with that. It is probably the business model for a sport where 90% of its betting is done off track. It just isn't for me.

Banking the apron was not possible why?
If you bank it its easier to see the track.
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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2014, 09:55:24 AM »
I agree 3ww. Was there 2 weeks ago and left after 3 races. Pathetic facility. Why travel ? Home computer does the job and far more comfortable. Gural really dropped the ball here

We left early too. First time Ive ever done that. Left with 2 to go.

After a 3.5 hour drive!

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2014, 04:05:20 PM »

Why should Pocono or Yonkers or anyone bend over for them?

What comes around goes around , it's only a matter of time before the Meadowlands gets slots and it's only a matter of time before the slots funding in Pa. comes to an end ...... my guess is that Gural will get the last laugh when it comes to Pocono.

When you're trying to keep people interested in the sport why wouldn't you try and help out the mecca of harness racing ?  I remember you posting on BTW every other day about Rosecroft and how everybody should back racing in Maryland, and now you post why should anybody bend over for the Meadowlands ...  unreal

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2014, 04:44:53 PM »
What comes around goes around , it's only a matter of time before the Meadowlands gets slots and it's only a matter of time before the slots funding in Pa. comes to an end ...... my guess is that Gural will get the last laugh when it comes to Pocono.

When you're trying to keep people interested in the sport why wouldn't you try and help out the mecca of harness racing ?  I remember you posting on BTW every other day about Rosecroft and how everybody should back racing in Maryland, and now you post why should anybody bend over for the Meadowlands ...  unreal


People can do what they want.

I just don't feel the new building is a destination of any kind.

You goto keeneland and del mar and the track is in itself something.

The new building is by no means something you would goto.

But if you enjoy it more power to you.

Ill attend again if someone I know has a horse in a big race aside form that not interested in going again.

Its called an opinion.

I have no animosity at all.

I do find it funny that some of their management and some of the fans think there is some entitlement about it all.

The new building is not a good horse racing experience and the racing is mediocre at best now. Racng for 9,000$ purses.
They have big pools so that's a good thing.


The people were very nice and I wish them all the best.

This is my opinion.

On the Meadowlands.

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2014, 04:50:28 PM »
I know 8 people who have gone from Maryland up there and 4 of them will never go back. 2 of them liked it.

I used to go up on a semi regular basis.

I enjoyed it.

I am not happy that's over.

Would rather goto chester or Yonkers to watch racing in person.

The title of this thread is thoughts and observations on the Meadowlands.

What does Rosecroft have to do with any of that?

rosecroft sucks.

OK and?

It is what it is.

My thoughts and observations.

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2014, 08:59:00 PM »
I was hoping for a better review of the new Big M because I know Yonkers is a piss hole.

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2014, 09:17:11 PM »
I was hoping for a better review of the new Big M because I know Yonkers is a piss hole.

Say what you want about the racing there, but I'd hardly call the new Yonkers a piss hole.  Very nice club house and you can easily get a good seat and watch the races there.  I'm very surprised at the many negative reviews about the new Big M facility.  Only way I'd go there now is if one of my buddies has a horse in a big race there.
Sure, Gural may get slots,purses may go up, but I doubt that will lead to any expansion of racing.  Once one state makes a drastic cut in racing slot subsidies, it is only a matter of time until politicians in other states set their sights on the same pot of gold.  Let's face it, only a small percentage of people are horse racing fans of any type. And, they are a dying breed.

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Re: The New Meadowlands - Thoughts and Observations
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 09:56:09 PM »
I was hoping for a better review of the new Big M because I know Yonkers is a piss hole.

Hey everyone.

If you do go go in with an open mind.

Have fun.

The people are nice.

I am very much awaiting Hambo day reviews I cant see how the big days wont be a mess.

I wont post anymore about this because I am not wanting to be overly negative on anything.

I try to be positive about things.

 

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