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Re: WEG Implements Gural's Rule
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2011, 04:22:51 PM »
Buck i St Pat was a mare.

Is Meirs the best of the male Burke horses that is not a gelding?

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Re: WEG Implements Gural's Rule
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2011, 04:24:40 PM »
They own those race tracks and they make the rules, ON THEIR PROPERTY!  You wanna race 4 the 4 biggest purses in NA, then follow the rules. Easy decision.

 In the mean time, you had a 4 year old HORSE make 1.2 million this year, and FA make 1.4 ( Better Sweet 800K)

The more horses that are brought back at 4, it makes for better competition , rivalries are started and fan gets more interested. Love it.

Will they add more stake races for 4 year olds as a result of the rule?  I think that would be fair.

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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2011, 05:28:07 PM »
FA make 1.4 ( Better Sweet 800K)

Yes and they are both geldings, that's why they are still racing.  Gural's and Weg's rules would have no effect on that.  Even if a stallion is brought back, often it is because their value as a race horse may be higher than that as a stud.  I don't claim to be an expert on breeding, but I know that not all super race horses have the bloodlines to make them instantly valuable as a stud.
Also, don't the Hambo Society and the Breeder's Crown control their races to a great degree?
If Gural wants them, he'll have to go along or try and get them to agree with him.  Not likely.

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Re: WEG Implements Gural's Rule
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2011, 06:34:09 PM »
They own those race tracks and they make the rules, ON THEIR PROPERTY!  You wanna race 4 the 4 biggest purses in NA, then follow the rules. Easy decision.

 In the mean time, you had a 4 year old HORSE make 1.2 million this year, and FA make 1.4 ( Better Sweet 800K)

The more horses that are brought back at 4, it makes for better competition , rivalries are started and fan gets more interested. Love it.

In a nut shell I agree completely.

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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2011, 09:26:18 PM »
FA make 1.4 ( Better Sweet 800K)

Yes and they are both geldings, that's why they are still racing.  Gural's and Weg's rules would have no effect on that.  Even if a stallion is brought back, often it is because their value as a race horse may be higher than that as a stud.  I don't claim to be an expert on breeding, but I know that not all super race horses have the bloodlines to make them instantly valuable as a stud.
Also, don't the Hambo Society and the Breeder's Crown control their races to a great degree?
If Gural wants them, he'll have to go along or try and get them to agree with him.  Not likely.
The hambo Society is already on board, and they control the Breeders Crown too. So now all the big races will be off limits to any horse retired to stud ( Except the fake races at Chester) for big money. I am plenty sure We Will See could of made some good money in the shed after his 3 year old season, but his owner actually cares about the game and he will be back at 5 after making 1.2 million as a 4 year OLD HORSE!!!

So now what will these guys do?? They own these places and the hambo society is on board! Guess what they will race or better be really hurt! Racing after 3 is good for the sport, how awesome would it of been to see Rock N Roll hanover and Sombeachsomewhere against the top FFa'ers??? That is what this sport needs, not someone saying that a guy who saved the big m and the 2nd best circuit in NA are socialists??? Change is good for the sport cause the same old same old has run it into the ground.


Funny, people show up at balmoral 2 sat ago why? Cause the some of the stars of racing are there along with the star drivers.

People show up on Pace day and hambo day why? Cause all of the stars are racing that day. I am sure the same is for the big nights in Toronto as well ( never been so I can't say for sure) If the stars of this sport are healthy and able to race, keep racing them, and people will come out to see them. It is not that hard to understand.

As for all the 3 year olds that retired this year, not one of them has a chance in hell to make what better sweet did while in the shed. This crop was bad and they will show up that way when their yearlings show up and they are not eligible for the big races.

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Re: WEG Implements Gural's Rule
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2011, 12:38:37 AM »
How exciting it will be if some of the top horses are not elible for the Hambo or Breeder's Crown because of Gural's dictates.   Plus, this hurts pacing sires much more than it hurts trotting sires.(due to strong European demand for trotters).  Anyone who wants to can worship at the shrine of Gural.  That is your chouice.  Count me out.  We will see how happy people will be when some of these stars break down at four and never make  it to the breeding shed, that will be good for the sport.

As for all the 3 year olds that retired this year, not one of them has a chance in hell to make what better sweet did while in the shed.
 And, of course Bettor Sweet will never make a penny in the shed.  We might get to see him racing in $1,000 claimers at Northfield when he is 12 though.

As for me, I refuse to bet on any races at a track that implements such bans.  It's private money and it's mine.

 

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