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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2012, 05:45:55 AM »
Checked the Saturday entries at Vernon. Seems "team Brainard" didn't put one horse in the box. Josh isn't liking this 3 day test barn much!

Washwoman gossip, one would expect it from a MAGGOT like you Dave...a lifetime of being violated has turned you into a girly girl...

But since you ask 6 were dropped in but they didn't write races for them.   You act like they dropped them in someplace else???

Word on the backside is Howie Okusko don't wanna run the detention barn Friday night for Saturday's racing so they had to write them out of races.

I believe he will be up to the Legion tonight night if you want to check on him.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2012, 10:05:59 AM »
Headpole Dave, you need to wait a few weeks and see the result before saying I told ya so.  Changing up a horses routine and putting it someplace new will mess some of them up.
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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2012, 12:30:24 PM »
Washwoman gossip, one would expect it from a MAGGOT like you Dave...a lifetime of being violated has turned you into a girly girl...

But since you ask 6 were dropped in but they didn't write races for them.   You act like they dropped them in someplace else???

Word on the backside is Howie Okusko don't wanna run the detention barn Friday night for Saturday's racing so they had to write them out of races.

I believe he will be up to the Legion tonight night if you want to check on him.

Juicey with his troll account, couldn't wait any longer and brings up his old faithful child molestation topic. Really seems to be a favorite of yours. Hits pretty close to home I'd say.

2 dead last and one a staggering fifth. Guess when Josh can't get near them, they don't go as fast. 3 days in a test barn and they all go backwards. Why is that Juice?


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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 12:35:51 PM »
Marks had 5 horses in last Saturday, and now can't get one of six in this Saturday? Lol. Ok Juice, keep drinking the Kool Aid.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2012, 12:45:50 PM »
Have you formed your letter to the New York Wagering Board addressing the obvious ineptitude of the testing lab and demanded the resignation of their trained chemists?

Or are you going to point out the lack of positive tests with Pena.........even though it has been explained over and over again why their would be no positive tests?

It just seems to me there is a personal agenda behind all your accusations when blame (from a layman's perspective) should be placed upon various authorities and organizations.........yet you continue to signal out individuals.

So, are you really looking out for the good of the ENTIRE industry or your own personal glee?

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2012, 12:55:50 PM »
Have you formed your letter to the New York Wagering Board addressing the obvious ineptitude of the testing lab and demanded the resignation of their trained chemists?

Or are you going to point out the lack of positive tests with Pena.........even though it has been explained over and over again why their would be no positive tests?

It just seems to me there is a personal agenda behind all your accusations when blame (from a layman's perspective) should be placed upon various authorities and organizations.........yet you continue to signal out individuals.

So, are you really looking out for the good of the ENTIRE industry or your own personal glee?

I point out that they are cheating and that they now are racing in the 3 day test barn and you defended them. I pointed out that all their horses finished last or up the track and you want me to write letters? I can see the cheating that goes on... Did you write letters about anyone you knew to be cheating?

I really don't owe you any explanation for anything. I have my opinions and I'm expressing them. Results are proving my points for me. I noticed you didn't comment about the child molesting accusations thrown at me... Do you advocate those?


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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2012, 01:15:34 PM »
I defended them?

My asking you a question is not a defense of Marks or Brainard who I have never met in my life.

What my life has been about is horse racing.........about 40 of the 44 years I've existed........I consider my questions to you a defense of the industry..........yet you will not answer those questions.

I will not get involved in your personal "molestation" issue because it is just as ridiculous as your accusations........BUT your accusations affect ME, personally.........which you refuse to see.

You continue to harp on "my defending" of those you suspect.....no flat-out name as criminals.........and yet you will not acknowledge I am not addressing their supposed actions, but the actions of our industry as a whole to continue to act in archaic and detrimental regulatory actions when it comes to the proper therapeutic care of a race horse!

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2012, 02:06:09 PM »
Juicey with his troll account, couldn't wait any longer and brings up his old faithful child molestation topic. Really seems to be a favorite of yours. Hits pretty close to home I'd say.

2 dead last and one a staggering fifth. Guess when Josh can't get near them, they don't go as fast. 3 days in a test barn and they all go backwards. Why is that Juice?

AMAZING THE MODERATORS ALLOWED THAT POST TO STAND DESPITE BEING NOTIFIED OF IT.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2012, 02:11:38 PM »
I'd like to see every horse entered in every race every day  in a 3 day detention barn and see how they race.  Might as well screw with everyone.   Next I want to see our human athletes in every sport put in detention at least 3 days before competion.  Lets get serious about this cheating and take it all the way with every sport.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2012, 04:02:26 PM »
I defended them?

My asking you a question is not a defense of Marks or Brainard who I have never met in my life.

What my life has been about is horse racing.........about 40 of the 44 years I've existed........I consider my questions to you a defense of the industry..........yet you will not answer those questions.

I will not get involved in your personal "molestation" issue because it is just as ridiculous as your accusations........BUT your accusations affect ME, personally.........which you refuse to see.

You continue to harp on "my defending" of those you suspect.....no flat-out name as criminals.........and yet you will not acknowledge I am not addressing their supposed actions, but the actions of our industry as a whole to continue to act in archaic and detrimental regulatory actions when it comes to the proper therapeutic care of a race horse!

For the record, the people you were defending, and yes you were defending them, one of those "team Brainard" people is the one posting the constant and awful child molesting posts on numerous websites. That person is also banned from having a license in North America because of his "lack of integrity." That should speak volumes about that person. And who that person associates with...

Now on to your question - I don't pretend to be able to Answer questions for an entire industry. Some people use drugs for equine benefit and others for personal profit... Which one should be allowed? If you think some rules are archaic, nobody is forcing you to be in the business. Either advocate change or abide by the rules. If you think Lou Pena, Rene Allard, Bill Robinson, Casie Coleman, Eric Ledford and Bill Elliot were all using drugs for therapeutic reasons than I think your view on reality is a little skewered. Those guys weren't pumping EPO, Aranesp, and other designer drugs through their horses system to help the horse.

When someone is put into detention and their horses performances drop off dramatically, I don't think it's a real surprise to question their abilities. Again Jeff Gural put Branaird/Marks in there and the results speak for themselves.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2012, 04:09:47 PM »
AMAZING THE MODERATORS ALLOWED THAT POST TO STAND DESPITE BEING NOTIFIED OF IT.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2012, 04:41:03 PM »

When someone is put into detention and their horses performances drop off dramatically, I don't think it's a real surprise to question their abilities. Again Jeff Gural put Branaird/Marks in there and the results speak for themselves.

Judging by past associates I wouldn't be surprised if something is going on, however its best to wait a few weeks when you have a larger sample size to prove your point.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2012, 04:47:34 PM »
For the record, the people you were defending, and yes you were defending them

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Now on to your question - I don't pretend to be able to Answer questions for an entire industry. Some people use drugs for equine benefit and others for personal profit... Which one should be allowed?


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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2012, 04:55:14 PM »
I can't see a post anywhere where anyone has been accused of being a child molester on this entire forum. All I see is Headpole Dave continually bashing my friend Tracy Brainard, even after I have repeatedly told him she is my friend.

All I see is a bunch of people spreading rumors like a bunch of girly girls and grandstand goofs. dorkusinterruptus

And anyone who does not like the way this forum is run can certainly send me several hundred thousand dollars and own it. Then they can run it the way they want it run.

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Re: Brainard's horses in 3 day detention barn
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2012, 05:00:30 PM »
It was a subtle but disgusting remark...........but I think several lines have been crossed..............just please don't let personal attacks become the norm.........or I'll never let you hug me and break wind again.

 

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