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Title: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: JuiceJunkies on March 24, 2012, 04:28:08 PM
The kid is getting the track figured out.
ICE COLD Double.
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Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: LVGaryD on March 24, 2012, 09:26:48 PM
I respect Darrin a lot. I think he can pick at least as good as Wendy Ross can.  bowdown
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: 3 wide and wingin on March 24, 2012, 09:48:58 PM
Darrin is a good guy.

 thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: CyberChamp on March 24, 2012, 10:25:34 PM
He also had a nice single in his pick4 (race 8 #4).

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Saturday Pick 4 and Pick 5 Tickets
Posted by Darin Zoccali on Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:46 AM
Pick 5 -

Race 1: 1,9
Race 2: 4,8
Race 3: 1,5,8,9,10
Race 4: 1,3,5,7
Race 5: 1,8
Cost: $80
Pick 4 -
Race 6: 1,4,5,8,9
Race 7: 2,3,8
Race 8: 4
Race 9: 4,7,8,9
Cost: $60
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: JuiceJunkies on March 25, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
Darrin  thumbsup
He has silenced his critics.
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: newandimproved on March 25, 2012, 02:13:19 PM
Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut...If you have been playing his numbers from opeining day until now your bankroll would be as far under as home values.  rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: Blue Chip55 on March 25, 2012, 02:18:09 PM
Darrin  thumbsup
He has silenced his critics.

Yes he has----Nice $17.00 piece as mentioned
Has a much better handle on the track now
Good for the kid  thumbsup
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: newandimproved on March 25, 2012, 02:21:57 PM
Yes he has----Nice $17.00 piece as mentioned
Has a much better handle on the track now
Good for the kid  thumbsup
and how long did it take him to get a handle ???? Yet is able to post or should say foist his picks upon the public at large...
Thought he was a pompous arrogant Prick when he was on here a few years back and then left and took his bat and ball when called on something that he was dead wrong on ...
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: pezz97 on March 25, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
He also had a nice single in his pick4 (race 8 #4).

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Saturday Pick 4 and Pick 5 Tickets
Posted by Darin Zoccali on Saturday, March 24, 2012 11:46 AM
Pick 5 -

Race 1: 1,9
Race 2: 4,8
Race 3: 1,5,8,9,10
Race 4: 1,3,5,7
Race 5: 1,8
Cost: $80
Pick 4 -
Race 6: 1,4,5,8,9
Race 7: 2,3,8
Race 8: 4
Race 9: 4,7,8,9
Cost: $60
This right here pisses me off the most.

If you look at his selections, in this race he lists the 8 followed by the 9 than the 1!!! How the f**k can you do that when you are the in house handicapper? He does it all the time too. 2 weeks ago, a horse he picked 2nd wasn't even on his pick 4 ticket and he went 5 deep!


As for this weekend. 25 races, and he had 4 winners  1/5   8/5   7/1 and 8/1


Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: JuiceJunkies on March 25, 2012, 04:59:24 PM
This right here pisses me off the most.

If you look at his selections, in this race he lists the 8 followed by the 9 than the 1!!! How the f**k can you do that when you are the in house handicapper? He does it all the time too. 2 weeks ago, a horse he picked 2nd wasn't even on his pick 4 ticket and he went 5 deep!


As for this weekend. 25 races, and he had 4 winners  1/5   8/5   7/1 and 8/1

His title is Oddsmaker.   That job does not mean he handicaps the race to put the running order into "odds" format.   Instead he is attempting to handicap the public (guys like you and me, et al).    His goal if done correctly is to put up the odds of which the horse will be at post time, he has to dismiss any knowledge he has of the races and try to use an unbiased opinion of the public.   

His other gig is public handicapper, in this position he attempts to put together "tickets" in which the likelyhood of cashing and value are balanced with cost.   In this position he uses both his knowledge of the horses and drivers.   It is these selections that are actual handicapping.

Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: Blue Chip55 on March 25, 2012, 05:23:41 PM
His title is Oddsmaker.   That job does not mean he handicaps the race to put the running order into "odds" format.   Instead he is attempting to handicap the public (guys like you and me, et al).    His goal if done correctly is to put up the odds of which the horse will be at post time, he has to dismiss any knowledge he has of the races and try to use an unbiased opinion of the public.   

His other gig is public handicapper, in this position he attempts to put together "tickets" in which the likelyhood of cashing and value are balanced with cost.   In this position he uses both his knowledge of the horses and drivers.   It is these selections that are actual handicapping.

Well explained. If tracks had more money , it would make sense to have two people handling these jobs. Why does the racetrack need an offical public handicapper anyway ? We have reached the stage where most remaining gamblers use their own opinion. Having Heyden, Warkentin , Mckee and Wendy giving their opinions doesnt do very much except confuse most.  How many opinions do you need ?
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: Jeremy on March 25, 2012, 05:27:42 PM
His title is Oddsmaker.   That job does not mean he handicaps the race to put the running order into "odds" format.   Instead he is attempting to handicap the public (guys like you and me, et al).    His goal if done correctly is to put up the odds of which the horse will be at post time, he has to dismiss any knowledge he has of the races and try to use an unbiased opinion of the public.   

His other gig is public handicapper, in this position he attempts to put together "tickets" in which the likelyhood of cashing and value are balanced with cost.   In this position he uses both his knowledge of the horses and drivers.   It is these selections that are actual handicapping.


I don't think Pezz is referring to the ML odds, but his selections in the race don't add up to what he plays in the pick 4 and pick 5 tickets.
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: pezz97 on March 25, 2012, 07:13:51 PM

I don't think Pezz is referring to the ML odds, but his selections in the race don't add up to what he plays in the pick 4 and pick 5 tickets.
Exactly.

Glad you can read and comprehend
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: Jeremy on March 26, 2012, 07:02:10 AM
Exactly.

Glad you can read and comprehend

Thanks,

being friends with Pigland and others I can see why he would have a difficult time.  Perhaps you can accommodate him by typing in all caps and intentionally misspelling words.  Some others are beyond hope so I can't figure out way to help them.
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: JuiceJunkies on March 26, 2012, 06:11:35 PM
Thanks,

being friends with Pigland and others I can see why he would have a difficult time.  Perhaps you can accommodate him by typing in all caps and intentionally misspelling words.  Some others are beyond hope so I can't figure out way to help them.

PIGLAND GUD PEOPLE.

"ALL JEWS JUNKIES AND FREENDS ARE WEALLY BAD AND THEY CAST MANNY BAD HISTORIES ON HARNESS CAMELS AND WEPSITES GENERALLY.   I AM PREATTY SURE THAT EVEN FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT WUD THOUGHT THESE GUYS SHUD GET BEAT UP FOR DEY LUNCH MONIES AND IM THINKING DEY SHOULD BE QUARANTINES EN GUANTAMENO WITH THE WEALLY BAD GYES."
Title: Re: DARIN ZOCCALI 84.60 ICE COLD DAILY DOUBLE
Post by: Jeremy on March 26, 2012, 06:33:48 PM
PIGLAND GUD PEOPLE.

"ALL JEWS JUNKIES AND FREENDS ARE WEALLY BAD AND THEY CAST MANNY BAD HISTORIES ON HARNESS CAMELS AND WEPSITES GENERALLY.   I AM PREATTY SURE THAT EVEN FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT WUD THOUGHT THESE GUYS SHUD GET BEAT UP FOR DEY LUNCH MONIES AND IM THINKING DEY SHOULD BE QUARANTINES EN GUANTAMENO WITH THE WEALLY BAD GYES."

See now that I can't comprehend