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Title: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 23, 2014, 06:16:17 PM
Let's have a little fun with an ITS pick4 challenge.

Here are the rules:

There will be two challenges, one for the USA (Meadowlands) and one for Canada (Woodbine).  The winner of each challenge plus one wild card winner will face off in the finals.

The goal is to accumulate the highest net "winnings" at Wdb, M1, or both; regardless of how many rounds you participate in.

To play, you must select a pick4 ticket consisting of a single in one leg and then go four choices deep in the other three legs.  (Example: your ticket should look like 1/23810/3469/23710…or 1246/2389/4/1237…etc.).  Your score will be determined by your net “winnings” (dollars, not percent).

The grand prize will be a $32 wagering credit that will be applied as a $64 pick4 ticket of your choice (1x4x4x4 or some permutation of that), in which I will spend $64 on and go 50/50 with the winner.

Prior to the finals, just post your tickets prior to the first leg of the pick4 going off in either challenge.

I reserve all rights to change the rules or cancel the challenge at my discretion.


Contest Dates

Practice Round
Mon 2/24: Wdb EP4 and LP4
Thu 2/27: M1 EP4 and LP4

Round 1
Fri 2/28: Wdb EP4 and LP4
Sat 3/1: M1 EP4 and LP4

Round 2
Mon 3/3: Wdb EP4 and LP4
Thu 3/6: M1 EP4 and LP4

Round 3
Fri 3/7: Wdb EP4, M1 LP4
Sat 3/8: Wdb EP4, M1 LP4

Finals (Special rules TBD)
Sat 3/15: Wdb EP4, M1 LP4 (with special tiebreaker rules, TBD)

Good luck!

If you have any questions, post them here.

Addendum

1. Any late scratches that you pick will result in you receiving the post time favorite.  And yes, you may hit the p4 more then once on the same ticket if your leg with 4 choices consists of a favorite that wins and a scratched horse in the same leg.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 23, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
To get things started, here is my EP4 ticket for Wdb on Mon 2/24:

1/3679/25910/1489   (Changed it up)
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 23, 2014, 07:05:18 PM
Sounds like fun, I'll have a look at Monday's card and post my picks tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: LVGaryD on February 23, 2014, 07:57:59 PM
 Thank you CC for this great contest! You're the best!  thumbsup

 bowdown bowdown bowdown
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 23, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
Loser keeps Bieber!   rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 23, 2014, 08:52:38 PM
I've always felt that a savvy capper could turn a long term profit on the pick4 at M1 and Wdb, where the races are competitive and the pools are large.

I also believe that some of our ITS posters are pretty darn good at finding the "singles" in the pick4 sequence.  Off the top of my head, RocknRoll and Brush and Crush are two of the best that I know.

IMO, the real art to hitting a sizable pick4 involves finding the leg where you can key one or two horses, allowing you to go deeper elsewhere to catch a bomber.  That, and a little luck, of course.

I originally wanted to create a challenge where the contestants just picked the single amongst the 4 legs of the pick4 (and not pick the other 3 legs).  But I think it adds a little excitement to actually pick and hit the pick4.  (I'll be playing my tickets.  Hopefully, others will be playing theirs, especially with the 20 cent mins at Wdb.)

Let's see how it goes.



Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: careless hal on February 23, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Wdb. ep4
1234/3469/12810/1

ltPk4
1/2367/2356/1679
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 24, 2014, 03:52:33 PM
Woodbine:

Early Pick 4:
Race 4: 1,2,4,5
Race 5: 3,4,7,9
Race 6: 2
Race 7: 1,2,4,9


Late Pick 4:
Race 8: 5
Race 9: 1,2,3,7
Race 10: 5,6,7,8
Race 11: 1,3,6,9

Good luck to all playing along!  thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 24, 2014, 04:09:24 PM
Changed up my EP4. Here's my LP4:

1/3678/4568/1269
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 24, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
Speed not looking good tonight.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 24, 2014, 05:35:57 PM
What a cluster f**k of a first race. Phil Hudon picks up the pieces of the "we only know how to drive on top" race that lasted three quarters of a mile.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 24, 2014, 06:20:26 PM
Sad thing is that I put some $$$ on the 10 and that little "break" probably cost him race.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 24, 2014, 06:42:52 PM
Never saw that before! In the last race the "photo finish equipment didn't function" so the Judges used their opinion and camera angles to determine that the 4 horse won the race.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 24, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
 slaphead

Just wow.... Nice driving Jody in race 8.... Pulls the pocket with nothing and holds up my horse. And how the hell does that pig wire the field when speed hasn't been holding up all night? He hasn't won in almost TWO years!
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 24, 2014, 07:03:28 PM
$8k claimers   birdienana 4pezz2
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: careless hal on February 25, 2014, 07:20:50 AM
The first practice session resulted in  no one being able to pick a single.   4pezz2 4pezz2 4pezz2
Easier said than done. idunno idunno idunno
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 25, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
Makes the scorekeeping easy!   rflmao1

No one said picking these would be easy.   noway
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: RocknRoll on February 26, 2014, 12:56:47 AM
I'm in starting Friday. Didn't get a chance to see this, been super busy at work. Glad to see I only missed the practice round. Oh and an FYI, I did play Monday, had both my singles win (Account Rollover and Slip Into Glide), and still missed both pick 4's.  nononono
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: careless hal on February 26, 2014, 12:39:49 PM
Thursday 2/27

Epk4   1/1348/12310/1246

Lpk4   1458/5/3459/13812

in the late pk4 I replaced #10 with #12 in race 10
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 26, 2014, 03:43:17 PM
I'm in starting Friday. Didn't get a chance to see this, been super busy at work. Glad to see I only missed the practice round. Oh and an FYI, I did play Monday, had both my singles win (Account Rollover and Slip Into Glide), and still missed both pick 4's.  nononono

Hey, somebody's got to win. Welcome to the party!
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 26, 2014, 08:15:52 PM
M1 Thursday

EP4
1236/1238/3/1234


LP4
14589/35810/3/36810

One change due to a scratch.
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Bdttitus on February 26, 2014, 09:20:41 PM
Meadowlands pk 4's for Thursday

Epk4.     1236/8/1237/1279

Lpk4.      1459/5/37910/1468
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: tonyb147 on February 27, 2014, 08:08:57 AM
EPK4: 1/1368/12710/1479

LPK4: 1568/3/1345/3468
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: RocknRoll on February 27, 2014, 09:44:06 AM
Ep4...2356/1389/12310/1

Lp4...4/3456/34910/36810
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: chicagojazz on February 27, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
EP4:   1356 X 8 X 12310 X 12710

LP4:   1245 X 3568 X 3 X 34810
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: NIATROSS on February 27, 2014, 10:28:51 AM
2/28 WOODBINE

EP4  36710/2/2356/2345

LP4   1469/1346/4/2345
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: cashman on February 27, 2014, 10:54:12 AM
Big M EP4 1235/8/12710/2479


         LP4 1458/5/1347/46810
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: Headpole Dave on February 27, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
Meadowlands:  thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Early Pick 4

Race 3: 1
Race 4: 1,3,8,9
Race 5: 1,3,7,10
Race 6: 1,2,7,9

Late Pick 4
Race 7: 5,6,8,9
Race 8: 3,5,6,8
Race 9: 4
Race 10: 3,6,8,10

Good luck guys!


Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 27, 2014, 05:55:19 PM
Surprisingly, after 3 legs of the EP4, every single has won.  dorkusinterruptus
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: CyberChamp on February 27, 2014, 06:13:51 PM
Congrats to Dave and BD for catching the EP4!   bowdown
Title: Re: Pick4 Challenge - USA vs. Canada
Post by: tonyb147 on February 28, 2014, 08:31:00 AM
I'm in starting Friday. Didn't get a chance to see this, been super busy at work. Glad to see I only missed the practice round. Oh and an FYI, I did play Monday, had both my singles win (Account Rollover and Slip Into Glide), and still missed both pick 4's.  nononono

Same thing for me in the practice round Thursday.  slaphead