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Title: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: cashman on November 27, 2012, 11:55:23 AM
Heading to pensacolas dogtrack fri nite. Need some angles on the dogs rflmao1 rflmao1


On vacation at my buddy's condo in gulf beach Alabama. Pretty sweet down here.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 27, 2012, 12:28:06 PM
My Bride and I went to the dog track in Memphis for our only time. It was interesting for a little while. (we sat with a couple of dog trainers that told us a lot about their biz) But it got boring pretty quick for us because there wasn't any race strategy... they just banged out of the gate and chased the mechanical rabbit. I like the angle of the driver or jockey affecting the race. But, I'm not a gambler. Hope you have a great time Cashman.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: careless hal on November 27, 2012, 12:30:38 PM
Box the 2-4-5 in every race.  You will make money! If not, I'll feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: dinkadoo on November 27, 2012, 12:44:02 PM
ignore times --- they are meaningless
*bet dogs dropping down in class
* if you are real good, note dogs that if they finish off the board in that race, that they can drop down in class --- have a friend that races at Wheeling, a big angle of his.
*take note of track comments if dog likes to race in/out and what post they may have.
5/6/7 dog with speed likely to cut corner and open up on first turn where inside dogs with speed may have lead but not have the same distance lead coming out of turn.

Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mr. B on November 27, 2012, 01:57:39 PM
Took your info to heart as I thought I would be at Hollywood dog track on Saturday night, but I see that racing doesn't begin till Monday.  May get stuck having to go to Pompano on Saturday night.   idunno


Then of course, 2 of my horses draw into races 14 and 16 on Saturday night, and I will be up until 2:30am Sunday morning watching them race!   rflmao1   rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Dolfan on November 27, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
Mr. B, there is always simulcasting whether or not there is live racing & racing does resume Saturday but PPK is the only one in the area that takes CalX.  PPK's big night of 9 races usually means a 9:45 finish & by then, the buffet is history so there's the Italian Restaurant or Steakhouse to eat at.  Both have pretty decent food.  Oh, and Myrons Deli is okay too.


Heading to pensacolas dogtrack fri nite. Need some angles on the dogs

My friend has had some success betting speed from pp 5-8 as suggested earlier.  Good thing is there is very little stiffing!  Does Birmingham have any pools?
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 27, 2012, 04:34:57 PM
ps Cashman, I've trained several dogs. Problem was they were horses. You eventually learn to stop wasting time on them pretty early on.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mags on November 27, 2012, 07:20:53 PM
Cashman I use to go to Dairyland GReyhound Park in Kenosha Wisconsin when it was open..as far as wagering it goes like this Class and Speed. Class droppers with speed are usually a good wager. Post position is also key as the rail and 8 hole are usually always the best holes while the 3 or 4 hole being the worst. Gimmicks are the way to go wager wise and dogs that are positioned as to their favorite position on the racetrack is a key. So a dog that shows "midtrack" on his race comments will like the 6,7 or 8 hole out of the box and a "rail" comment would show a dog that likes to have an inside pp like the 1 0r 2 hole. There is usually a lot of bumping but if you can figure out who can clear the pack early, you have a fighting chance. Also look to see if the track has any bias after a few races..sometimes the "8" hole stays hot if the rail gets deep..Best Of Luck
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 27, 2012, 07:46:55 PM
Mags, what makes the 3&4 the worst? Do they get squeezed after the start? I don't know squat about dog racing.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: cashman on November 27, 2012, 11:58:10 PM
Mr. B, there is always simulcasting whether or not there is live racing & racing does resume Saturday but PPK is the only one in the area that takes CalX.  PPK's big night of 9 races usually means a 9:45 finish & by then, the buffet is history so there's the Italian Restaurant or Steakhouse to eat at.  Both have pretty decent food.  Oh, and Myrons Deli is okay too.

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My friend has had some success betting speed from pp 5-8 as suggested earlier.  Good thing is there is very little stiffing!  Does Birmingham have any pools?


Thanks guys hope I remember all that. We usually start drinking around 11am the day we hit dog track.


 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: cashman on November 28, 2012, 12:12:23 AM
If anyone ever visits gulf shores or orange beach. There is this bar on Bama fla border right on the gulf called florabama. Best bar ever! Only like 10 minutes from are condo.  Maybe Dolfan has been there?
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: RocknRoll on November 28, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
Cashman I use to go to Dairyland GReyhound Park in Kenosha Wisconsin when it was open..as far as wagering it goes like this Class and Speed. Class droppers with speed are usually a good wager. Post position is also key as the rail and 8 hole are usually always the best holes while the 3 or 4 hole being the worst. Gimmicks are the way to go wager wise and dogs that are positioned as to their favorite position on the racetrack is a key. So a dog that shows "midtrack" on his race comments will like the 6,7 or 8 hole out of the box and a "rail" comment would show a dog that likes to have an inside pp like the 1 0r 2 hole. There is usually a lot of bumping but if you can figure out who can clear the pack early, you have a fighting chance. Also look to see if the track has any bias after a few races..sometimes the "8" hole stays hot if the rail gets deep..Best Of Luck

You definitely nailed everything here. We used to go to Dairyland all the time too. Definitely agree, the 1 and 8 dogs posts are a good angle. You can't handicap the bumping so you try and find the dogs with the least amount of chance to get run over in the first turn.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: pezz97 on November 28, 2012, 03:56:59 AM
Super Pup!!!!!
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mr. B on November 28, 2012, 07:36:37 AM
6:30am flight through Denver to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday...arrive at 4:45pm.  May have to take a nap before I watch my horses.  Not sure about Pompano on Saturday. Maybe I will try the Gulfstream casino...can probably walk there from where I am staying.  Maybe try the dogs Monday or Tuesday...guess it depends on the work schedule.  Or how much pool time I need after work!   ;D
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: The Giss on November 28, 2012, 08:15:20 AM
You definitely nailed everything here. We used to go to Dairyland all the time too. Definitely agree, the 1 and 8 dogs posts are a good angle. You can't handicap the bumping so you try and find the dogs with the least amount of chance to get run over in the first turn.

Loved Dairyland - great food in the clubhouse too...offered an all-you-can eat prime rib buffet at one point for $19.99 and a decent wine list. Only harness tracks they took at that point were NFLD and Chicago.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Dolfan on November 28, 2012, 09:17:00 AM
If anyone ever visits gulf shores or orange beach. There is this bar on Bama fla border right on the gulf called florabama. Best bar ever! Only like 10 minutes from are condo.  Maybe Dolfan has been there?

Might as well be in Australia!  I am about 10 driving hours from the border.


Maybe I will try the Gulfstream casino...can probably walk there from where I am staying.  Maybe try the dogs Monday or Tuesday...guess it depends on the work schedule.  Or how much pool time I need after work!   ;D

You won't see CalX at Gulfstream or dogs.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mags on November 28, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
Mags, what makes the 3&4 the worst? Do they get squeezed after the start? I don't know squat about dog racing.


Js there's usually a little colliding as the dogs come out of the box and with the outside dogs breaking and coming inward and some midtrack dogs coming out of the rail positions it can get a little tight in the first turn. Thats why if you can get a midtrack liking dog out of the 7 or 8 hole to pop the box he may be able to go wire to wire. Naturally the 3,4 &5 are positioned to take the brunt of the bumping from either side. I still loved going there and wish it was still open 4pezz2
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 28, 2012, 11:47:30 AM

Js there's usually a little colliding as the dogs come out of the box and with the outside dogs breaking and coming inward and some midtrack dogs coming out of the rail positions it can get a little tight in the first turn. Thats why if you can get a midtrack liking dog out of the 7 or 8 hole to pop the box he may be able to go wire to wire. Naturally the 3,4 &5 are positioned to take the brunt of the bumping from either side. I still loved going there and wish it was still open 4pezz2
Thanks for the answer. Makes sense to me, kinda like I figured. Are there any 'late closers' in dog racing, or are they beat when they get away toward the back?
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: tonyb147 on November 28, 2012, 01:26:19 PM
Super Pup!!!!!

My favorite was Roobie Doobie Do!  rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 28, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
My favorite was Roobie Doobie Do!  rflmao1
Rutt Roh! rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mags on November 28, 2012, 02:42:16 PM
Thanks for the answer. Makes sense to me, kinda like I figured. Are there any 'late closers' in dog racing, or are they beat when they get away toward the back?

yea sometimes closers can win especially if they break slow and shoot thru the first turn as the dogs in front of them bump each other wide. Also they do have races at different distances usually 5/16 sprints, 3/8 long distance and 7/16 occasionally for a marathon race. The 3/8 races start near a turn like yonkers does so inside position usually helps on those even if the dog is a "closer"..you just hope he avoids trouble till he gets out of the turn.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mags on November 28, 2012, 02:43:58 PM
My favorite was Roobie Doobie Do!  rflmao1

Dairyland had a dog named "leona Hemsley"..weighed a petite 52 lbs
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: pezz97 on November 28, 2012, 03:05:43 PM
My favorite was Roobie Doobie Do!  rflmao1
rflmao1

Sorrento Warrior was the Dog's name who they called "super pup". We would go almost every Sat night he raced and it seemed like he set the track record 6 weeks in a row. I am with ya mags, loved going there.

When we go to vegas, T my Mom and I still play them. One of the tracks in Florida has a 2500K guarantee on there pick 4 We are in! rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Dolfan on November 28, 2012, 03:32:11 PM
Pat C Rendezvous won 36 in a row.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2lCqSPdE8s
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: pezz97 on November 28, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
Oh yeah 1 more thing, they had a contest to name their lure. The Lure was a bone, so T submitted that the lure should be named "Boner". he didn't win  rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: CyberChamp on November 28, 2012, 06:04:53 PM
Ahhh, the Dairyland days.  I remember "50-cent night" and seeing a guy carrying a tray of 7 beers and then me realizing that it was only $3.50!

I once took down an entire super pool with my buddy...we each had a winning ticket and we were the only winners in the $3K pool.

Some useful tips:

1. Bet any dog that shows a good closing kick.  If that dog happens to get out of the box quickly, the race is over.

2. Good early speed helps.

3. Bet the highest quinella probable.  For Christ's sake, their dogs!   rflmao1


Oh yeah 1 more thing, they had a contest to name their lure. The Lure was a bone, so T submitted that the lure should be named "Boner". he didn't win  rflmao1

Boner!  Love it!   rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: tonyb147 on November 28, 2012, 07:02:15 PM
Seriously, no one mentioned the most obvious angle?

Bet the dog that takes a crap in the post parade.  slaphead
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 28, 2012, 07:18:52 PM
Seriously, no one mentioned the most obvious angle?

Bet the dog that takes a crap in the post parade.  slaphead
If I was driving in the Hambo I might poop just a little in the post parade.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: AmyHollar on November 28, 2012, 08:15:26 PM
If I was driving in the Hambo I might poop just a little in the post parade.
So will whoever puts you up!
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Post by: The Skipper on November 28, 2012, 10:40:48 PM
After reading this thread I just realized you degenerates are even worse than I thought  slaphead
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: AmyHollar on November 29, 2012, 06:58:10 AM
After reading this thread I just realized you degenerates are even worse than I thought  slaphead
   rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Just Saying on November 29, 2012, 08:15:31 AM
So will whoever puts you up!
Wow, that hurt! But I kinda liked it in a kinky way, you little minx.
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: cashman on November 29, 2012, 10:44:20 AM
After reading this thread I just realized you degenerates are even worse than I thought  slaphead


Figured you already knew that

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: AmyHollar on November 29, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
Wow, that hurt! But I kinda liked it in a kinky way, you little minx.
rflmao1 rflmao1
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: Mags on November 29, 2012, 05:16:55 PM

Figured you already knew that

 rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1

thought it was common knowledge already myself
Title: Re: O.T. Handicappying the greyhounds!
Post by: cashman on December 01, 2012, 10:54:02 AM
Other than hitting a couple of smallntrifectas last nite. Rough nite betting the dogs. Beer was cold though. 15 races is way too many though. Had fun.