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General Category => General Harness Racing Discussion => Topic started by: LB46 on November 05, 2012, 01:00:23 PM
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What an amazing animal, this horse just keeps coming at you week in and week out. All of the other great ones have gotten tired or had soundness issues as their careers went on but not this horse. I have never seen a horse quite like him, he never races bad, he is not the fastest horse all all time but he might be the toughest. Just in amazement of what an iron horse he is, I just enjoy watching him to his work. Incredible!!!
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He certainly is the richest pacer of all time too! bowdown
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I have never seen a horse quite like him
Gallo Blue Chip
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I hope to see him this coming Saturday at Bal
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Gallo Blue Chip
Gallo was a great horse but (imo) Foiled is all alone at the top and its not even close
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Gallo Blue Chip
I'll qualify this by saying I did not watch Gallo a lot until late in his career, I was not involved in the game until then. Obviously they are both great horses and I do not want to turn this into a which horse is better because either would be fine with me but FA is just so tough and it astonishes me that he is able to take such brutal trips and keep digging. He had every right to get beat Saturday night, but he just kept digging and fought off a nice horse in Razzle Dazzle
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The great ones have so much heart that they can always find a way to win. Won The West did it on a bad suspensory later in his career. Mack Lobell won huge on very sore feet his 3yo yr and would usually make a break just past the wire because of the pain, but he'd hang on until he had it won. The super horse that Bob Farrington had back in the Sportsman days (who's name I can't remember, dammit) would spend alot of time with refrigerator wraps everyday for his bad front tendons, would go out and kick butt in the invite every week. I love one with heart and I hate a talented bastard that won't try.
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I THINK YOU WERE THINKING OF RAMLING WILLIE.FOILED REMINDS ME A LOT OF RAMBLING WILLIE.ENDURES TOUGH TRIPS BETTER THAN ANY HORSE IVE SEEN.
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The great ones have so much heart that they can always find a way to win. Won The West did it on a bad suspensory later in his career. Mack Lobell won huge on very sore feet his 3yo yr and would usually make a break just past the wire because of the pain, but he'd hang on until he had it won. The super horse that Bob Farrington had back in the Sportsman days (who's name I can't remember, dammit) would spend alot of time with refrigerator wraps everyday for his bad front tendons, would go out and kick butt in the invite every week. I love one with heart and I hate a talented bastard that won't try.
Maybe you
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Gallo was a great horse but (imo) Foiled is all alone at the top and its not even close
I'm not going to argue who may be better - both are 2 of the great ones but to say "its not even close" is just plain silly.
Foiled Again: 63-162
Gallo: 53-132
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Thanks Elgin, but that wasn't the name I was trying to come up with. I'll remember it when I don't need it. Always goes that way.
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I'm not going to argue who may be better - both are 2 of the great ones but to say "its not even close" is just plain silly.
Foiled Again: 63-162
Gallo: 53-132
Still not even close (imo)
Gallo made $3,428,816 as a 3yr old and never made more than $270,000 in any other year he raced.
Foiled has banged out over a million the last 2 years against the best the sport has to offer , and the two years before that he made $900k and $700k
The horses Foiled made his money against dwarfs the horses Gallo raced against.
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Foiled is no bigger than a pint of piss, but he doesn't know it. As anyone who knows me knows, I am very partial to small horses with huge hearts.
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Foiled is no bigger than a pint of piss, but he doesn't know it. As anyone who knows me knows, I am very partial to small horses with huge hearts.
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To me the obvious has yet to be mentioned. I think a lot of the credit goes to Mr Burke for how well this horse has been managed. The Team enters each year with a plan to maximize the horse's potential and have done an extremely good job in making it happen.
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To me the obvious has yet to be mentioned. I think a lot of the credit goes to Mr Burke for how well this horse has been managed. The Team enters each year with a plan to maximize the horse's potential and have done an extremely good job in making it happen.
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To me the obvious has yet to be mentioned. I think a lot of the credit goes to Mr Burke for how well this horse has been managed. The Team enters each year with a plan to maximize the horse's potential and have done an extremely good job in making it happen.
Team Weaver is the brains behind the operation. Once I have Weaver cloned, Foiled Again will be next lilcheerleader
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I THINK YOU WERE THINKING OF RAMLING WILLIE.FOILED REMINDS ME A LOT OF RAMBLING WILLIE.ENDURES TOUGH TRIPS BETTER THAN ANY HORSE IVE SEEN.
Thanks mp, that's the horse. Bob had a machine that was a refrigeration unit hooked to two leg wraps, and Willie would stand in it for hours a week. It felt so good on his bad tendons that he never moved. I had a ton of respect for that horse.
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I'll always have a soft spot for the Grey Gladiator, Admiral's Express.
No breeding to speak of, fumbly gated and a real mean prick by times to work around... He had to overcome a no good trainer in Mike Hales and a driver in MacDonnell who is a great guy but nobody's first choice.
20 RIDICULOUSLY AMAZING THINGS ABOUT
ADMIRALS EXPRESS
STORY BY LAUREN LEE
Canadian Sportsman
What more can be said about Admirals Express, the nine-year-old grey pacing warrior? The
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Good stuff Dave. Got to love those tough olkd war horses.
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What sets Foiled apart from his contemporaries is his prowess on a half-mile track. He
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Some fun stats from our friend Bob "Hollywood" Heyden
The RICHEST Pacer in History!
Foaled May 8, 2004
Started in a NW2 BEFORE a NW1-won his first try at Freehold October 12, 2006-the ONLY time Jim Marshall, III drove. Debut came two weeks before his followup start (2nd)
Sire Dragon Again also won his first start in 1997 at age 2. He did it in 2:01.3, Foiled Again in 2:01 at Freehold.
UNUSUAL FACT-The TWO Richest Pacers of all time-Foiled Again and Gallo Blue Chip-NEITHER ever competed in a Triple Crown race! $4.431 Million to $4.260 Million
The Two richest single seasons for an older pacer: Mister Big-age 5-$1,532,932 and Foiled Again last year at age 7 $1,405,747
Foiled Again had only ONE career placing-3rd to 5th July 26, 2009, ONE career 10 hole (4th) and went off at 100-1 or higher just ONCE. 108.40-1 April 21, 2007 (NOTE-Since that placing came in the $500,000 Ben Franklin-he got $25,000 for 5th instead of $60,000 for 3rd-his original finish)
Can You Top This? Foiled Again may be THE richest pacer ever-but you never would have guessed it after his 3 YO season-the HIGHEST PURSE he competed for at 2/3? $31,000-Freehold in the SRF Pace! He was 3rd to Big Business and Big Stack
When Foiled Again won the 2012 Canadian Pacing Derby, he surged past Gallo Blue Chip in career earnings. When Foiled Again won his NEXT start (At Pocono)-he broke a tie at 63 for wins with Gallo Blue Chip. So-in review-When Foiled Again broke the $$ record-he was TIED with Gallo Blue Chip in wins at 63 and was competing at the same age that Gallo made it to-Age 8
Foiled Agains 164 career starts is exactly HALF of what Rambling Willie had career wise ('73-83) "Willie' was the only horse to TWICE be the all-time earner among pacers. He was the horse Niatross surpassed when he became the first $2 Million winner, then he surpassed Niatross briefly in 1983 before being overtaken by Cam Fella at that years end for the top spot.
NUMBERS:
124-164 IN THE MONEY for Foiled Again
150-164 CHECKS
42/164 were for $100,000 and up-but NONE until Career start #50
26 Flat is his fastest final quarter-set in a qualifier 2/26/11
11 sub 1:50 wins-46 miles in under 1:50-including 8 of his most recent 11 starts.
He paid $2.10 to win FOUR times.
He was a horse for all seasons-winning in winter 6 times, spring 23 times, summer 14 times and 21 times in the fall.
Yannick Gingras is one of 18 drivers for Foliled Again-Yannick leads with 92 assignments.
4 lengths is his largest winning margin-achieved 3 times
$848,640 is the biggest purse he;'s gone for-2011 Canadian Pacing Derby. He was 3rd to We Will See and stablemate Won The West
In his last 11 starts as an 8 year old as of September 24, he raced at 8 DIFFERENT Tracks in those 11 tries
$500G and Up Race History (10 1-3-1)
2009 Ben Franklin $500,000 placed 5th
2010 William Haughton $702,500 7th
2010 Ben Franklin $500,000 6th
2010 Breeders Crown $500,000 2nd
2011 Ben Franklin $500,000 6th
2011 William Haughton $523,000 2nd
2011 Canadian Pacing Derby $848,640 3rd
2011 Breeders Crown $500,000 2nd
2012 Ben Franklin $500,000 6th
2012 Canadian Pacing Derby $794,870 FIRST
Different Tracks -18
Freehold (FIRST), Yonkers, Meadowlands, Mohawk, Woodbine, Chester, Pocono, Meadows, Harrington, Batavia, Plainridge, Northfield, London, Tioga, Lexington, Balmoral, Indy and Rideau Carleton
YONKERS ONLY RECORD 31 starts 23 wins 6 seconds and 2 thirds. NEVER off the board $1,081,650 in Yonkers earnings ALONE
LEVY RECORD ONLY:
2009 5 4-1-0 2010 6 4-2-0 2011 5 4-0-1 2012 5 3-2-0 TOTAL 21 starts TWO FINAL wins, 15 wins, 5 seconds 1 third. $963,150 in just Levy earnings.
"OH NOSE" Foiled Again has been in 8 nose photos winning 4 and losing 4.
6-7-8 COMBINED-AGELESS WONDER
Foiled Again has had the most productive 6-7-8 Year Old seasons ever! $3,340,846 on the strength of 71 30-20-10 His earnings at 6-7-8 eclipsed that of Nihilators at 2-3-and HE retired the richest pacer ever in 1985 at $3,225,653
Can You Believe? That Foiled Again lost his last 17 starts at 3-he didn't win a race after February 17 in 2007????
Foiled Again only made two appearances in PASS events (One scratch-his ONLY career scratch) Once at Pocono and another at the Meadows-3rd and 6th-in 2007
OH CANADA-INDEED
During the torrid 6-7-8 Year Old seasons that Foiled Again has posted-all three times his yearly best time clocking has come in Canada
2010 Woodbine 1:48.3
2011 Mohawk 1:48.1
2012 Mohawk 1:48.3
Driver Roster-In Order They Appeared
Jim Marshall III
Jack Baggitt, Jr.
Daniel Dube
Mike Lachance
Steve Smith
Mike Wilder
George Brennan
Andy Miller
Eric Ledford
Eric Goodell
Yannick Gingras (FIRST time he drove him-7/13/08 at Chester-5th-in his 4 YO season)
Jason Bartlett
Greg Grismore
Dave Palone
Jody Jamieson
Matt Kakaley
Dave Miller (Molson-2010)
Brett Miller
"Calendar Guy"
You won't find a lot of horses who can say they've won at least TWICE in every calendar month. Foiled Again month by month victories:
January 3
February 2
March 3
April 11
May 9
June 2
July 2
August 4
September 10
October 7
November 9
December 2
ONLY 7 YEAR OLD Voted Pacer Of The Year -2011
October 8, 2008 was his first ever $100,000 WIN-A nose victory at Yonkers over Kenneth J-two months earlier he had RACED in his first ever 6-figure event-the $150,000 Fialkow at Yonkers on August 9 where he was 3rd.
'Sweet Sixteen"
Number of sub 1:49 miles posted by Foiled Again
He is historys first horse to have back to back MILLION $$ SEASONS at 7-8
PHOTO ANYONE?
24 of his 164 career starts have seen Foiled Again in a win photo (Half a length or less)
"The Streaker"
Longest career WINNING streak-6. Longest career LOSING streak-20
"Railbird"
Foiled Again has 29 times started from the rail
"Qualified?"
Foiled Again meets all the qualifications of a great horse. As far as qualifiers-16 times he's done so,
And Finally-when Foiled Again goes in the 2012 Breeders Crown at Woodbine-he'll be just the third horse to appear in the Breeders Crown (PACING) as THE richest performer of ALL-time. Gallo Blue Chip did it last in 2002-and Nihilator in 1985 prior to that.