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General Category => Political Talk => Topic started by: LVGaryD on July 16, 2012, 08:45:07 AM
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My hero Gary Johnson finally got a major newspaper to write about him. I'm certain Osama and Obamney will see to it he never makes the debate stage with them. Here you go Hal:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/libertarian-s-johnson-criticizes-obama-romney-in-las-vegas-visit-162435246.html
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Johnson has as much chance of being president as I do; and I'm not even running.
I'm far more Libertarian than anything else, but I'm also a realist. I'll vote for whoever has the best chance of kicking Osama & Moochelle out of the White House. I fear that this country can't withstand 4 more years of his destruction.
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Johnson has as much chance of being president as I do; and I'm not even running.
I'm far more Libertarian than anything else, but I'm also a realist. I'll vote for whoever has the best chance of kicking Osama & Moochelle out of the White House. I fear that this country can't withstand 4 more years of his destruction.
That is the trouble. If everyone who agreed with Johnson voted for him, he would win. I am going to vote for the best candidate for a change.
THe last time I did that, it was George W. Bush his first election. Ever since I'ver voted for the lesser of two evils every time. Hell I wish Slick Willie was able to run, I would vote for him...and he would win in a landslide. And it would be the first time I ever voted for a Democratic presidential candidate.
I generally vote for the most fiscally conservative, and that generally is the Republican. In this case, we have a Mormon running agin a Muslim. Both of those religions allow multiple wives. How dumb is that?
rflmao1 rflmao1 rflmao1
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I'll have to work on getting along with multiple wives. It' s gonna take me awhile longer to figure how to get along with ONE.
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I'm not a libertarian. I would call myself ultra-conservative. Sometimes people ask me what I think of Rush Limbaugh, and I say he is too much of a leftist for my taste. I have a problem with this "social liberal" "fiscal" conservative crap. Social engineering costs big money and is a waste of money. Even though I am not in favor of Gay marriage or legalizing marijuana , those issues would not decide my vote. It's not that I dislike Johnson's platform that much, but you are kidding yourself if you think that if everyone who agrees with him voted for him he would win. He would get a slim majority of the white male vote, that's it. I agree with JS that Obama must go, so I have no choice but to vote for Romney.
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Johnson would also get the majority of female vote.
I think Rush Limbaugh is a fat kook, a phony, and is completely full of shit. ;D
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Didn't you say that once about Hinklin?
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Didn't you say that once about Hinklin?
No, Hinklin's not a kook. rflmao1 rflmao1
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Both of those religions allow multiple wives. How dumb is that?
And Obama would have YOU pay for his multitude of wives.
I have a problem with this "social liberal" "fiscal" conservative crap.
Crap? Maybe to you but some of us - allot of us - believe in having all of the freedoms & individual rights that the founding fathers mentioned in the Bill Of Rights & Constitution WITHOUT spending us over a cliff.
Fiscally, it's this simple: You cannot spend what you don't have. If our gov't can live by that, we'd never have another economical problem.
That's the "crap" socially-liberal/fiscally conservatives want. And IMO, telling people how to live like the far right does is a bunch of crap!
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Government,by it 's vary nature limits your freedoms. That's why I'm in favor of limited government.
Both of those religions allow multiple wives. How dumb is that?
LVGD, I shocked that you would tell other people how to live. I guess this social liberal stuff only applies to a couple of things.
Dolfan, I get it now. You are in favor of all this social liberal CRAP. but you don't want to pay for it.
I'm in favor of a strong military. Protecting us from the rest of the jealous world is one of the main legitimate functions of our national government. And,I don't mind paying for it.
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I certainly would never dream of forcing my will upon others, which is why I could care less if women want to murder their unborn babies, if gays get married, or if someone wants to fire up some weed. I also do not care if people smoke, drink to excess, or if they stick a gun to their head and pull the trigger.
I do care about our idiotic politicians wasting our money and letting our jobs go overseas. I do care about seeing soldiers die needlessly when we could have simply nuked the enemy into loving the USA.
Government should be limited, no doubt. Cut it by 90%. Give us a strong military and good roads. Since I have paid into social security for 40 years, I'd hate to see it killed off before I die, but I really wish it had never started to begin with.
Our government sucks, and it has for the most part since Nixon resigned. We now have a dictator in office and even if he loses, we will have another idiot in office unless people wake up between now and November.
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Dolfan, I get it now. You are in favor of all this social liberal CRAP. but you don't want to pay for it.
I'm in favor of a strong military. Protecting us from the rest of the jealous world is one of the main legitimate functions of our national government. And,I don't mind paying for it.
You don't get it. The "crap" that I'm in favor of is equal rights for all regardless of your religious beliefs, sexual orientation...
I believe in a woman's right to choose during the 1st trimester only. Then only if the woman's life is at risk.
The far right wants to tell women they can't have an abortion & they can't count on the gov't for financial help. It's one or the other - you can't have both.
I too believe in a strong military, low taxes & whipping Congress into shape. I'm a small business owner - any idea how pissed I am at Obama now? No difference, he never had a prayer at my vote. But I shop the shit out of everything to save nickels & dimes & then the gov't spends our tax money on confirming that there are no mermaids!
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/your-tax-money-at-work-noaa-reports-mermaids-dont-exist.452565379/
So, like many of us, I cannot even have a prayer (yes, I believe in G-d) of really being represented by a President.
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I certainly would never dream of forcing my will upon others, which is why I could care less if women want to murder their unborn babies, if gays get married, or if someone wants to fire up some weed. I also do not care if people smoke, drink to excess, or if they stick a gun to their head and pull the trigger.
I do care about our idiotic politicians wasting our money and letting our jobs go overseas. I do care about seeing soldiers die needlessly when we could have simply nuked the enemy into loving the USA.
Government should be limited, no doubt. Cut it by 90%. Give us a strong military and good roads. Since I have paid into social security for 40 years, I'd hate to see it killed off before I die, but I really wish it had never started to begin with.
Our government sucks, and it has for the most part since Nixon resigned. We now have a dictator in office and even if he loses, we will have another idiot in office unless people wake up between now and November.
Quit stealing from my platform.
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Quit stealing from my platform.
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Quit stealing from my platform.
Uhhh, I probably have a lot of kids older than you and my policies have never changed in the past 40 years. I'm just a dumb old redneck who likes sexual intercourse with Asian women, and it probably goes back some deep rooted guilt about the Vietnam war....I suppose I just want to make the ladies happy for my fellow Americans killing their forefathers.
Then by accident I fell in love with Chinese ladies, there again probably because I wanted them to feel Nirvana here in this world....or maybe I just like the way they touch Luther D. ??? ???
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And this is why you will always beat him in the election Jeremy
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And this is why you will always beat him in the election Jeremy
He is just trying out for the czar of Asian relations
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He may win.
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And this is why you will always beat him in the election Jeremy
I don't even have an election right now. idunno
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rflmao1
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You don't get it. The "crap" that I'm in favor of is equal rights for all regardless of your religious beliefs, sexual orientation...
I believe in a woman's right to choose during the 1st trimester only. Then only if the woman's life is at risk.
The far right wants to tell women they can't have an abortion & they can't count on the gov't for financial help. It's one or the other - you can't have both.
I too believe in a strong military, low taxes & whipping Congress into shape. I'm a small business owner - any idea how pissed I am at Obama now? No difference, he never had a prayer at my vote. But I shop the shit out of everything to save nickels & dimes & then the gov't spends our tax money on confirming that there are no mermaids!
http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/your-tax-money-at-work-noaa-reports-mermaids-dont-exist.452565379/
So, like many of us, I cannot even have a prayer (yes, I believe in G-d) of really being represented by a President.
First of all, belief in equal rights and the Bill Of Rights and our Constitutrion has nothing to do with
social liberalism. Maybe your insistence as difining it as such is were we really disagree. I belive in all those things too. I look at them as conservative values,not liberal values. The problem is that many use the mantra of "equal rights" to further their agenda that really has nothing to do with equal rights. Excuse me if I refuse to accept demands that we change the very fabric of society as a civil rights issue.
The greatest power government has is the power to tax. It has been abused and our whole system of taxation is insane. In spite of the heavy taxation, far more is spent than is brought in.
Taxes remove funds from the private sector and put them under government control. A lot of the excess spending falls under what I would call social liberal issues. Social engineering! I dioesn't work. The "War on Poverty" waged by the Dems since LBJ is a prime example.
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First of all, belief in equal rights and the Bill Of Rights and our Constitutrion has nothing to do with
social liberalism. Maybe your insistence as difining it as such is were we really disagree. I belive in all those things too. I look at them as conservative values,not liberal values. The problem is that many use the mantra of "equal rights" to further their agenda that really has nothing to do with equal rights. Excuse me if I refuse to accept demands that we change the very fabric of society as a civil rights issue.
The greatest power government has is the power to tax. It has been abused and our whole system of taxation is insane. In spite of the heavy taxation, far more is spent than is brought in.
Taxes remove funds from the private sector and put them under government control. A lot of the excess spending falls under what I would call social liberal issues. Social engineering! I dioesn't work. The "War on Poverty" waged by the Dems since LBJ is a prime example.
We agree totally on fiscal issues & that many social programs deserve a continuation of financial support such as disability benefits for the physically disabled or the food stamp program as it was meant to be or unemployment benefits which I have been funding for 15 years as an employer. We agree then that they are necessary but should not be expanded, correct?
So that leaves the social issues that are not a financial liability. I support all of them, generally speaking, including the right to bear arms. If you agree with that then you are definitely NOT "very conservative".
For Gary & other Libertarians: I do not support the legalization of marijuana (or alcohol) in any public places. That is, what you do in your home is your business but I view them as possible impairments which endangers other people's well-being. So I guess you can say that I am in favor of legalizing (& taxing) the sale of those habits but not for public use. As opposed to prostitution which should absolutely be legalized & taxed.
I had to have lost Hal by now!
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I support all of them, generally speaking, including the right to bear arms. If you agree with that then you are definitely NOT "very conservative".
I will inform my conservative friends, who all support the right to bear arms, that they can no longer do so and claim to be conservative, according to Dolfan. There are very very few social issues that do not involve cost.
What we can agree on is that the Federal Government is a high cost way to attack any problem or run any agency. Most would agree that the Feds have to provide for our defense. But, look at the waste. The latest involves Obama's "greening" of the military. The Navy is being forced to use fuel that costs $26 a gallon!
Medicare, Medicaid and Social security have been run into the ground and look to be Ponzi schemes because of misuse of funds by the feds. Yet, many now want them to run our whole health care system. Sure, the present system is not perfect, but we are throwing away the baby with the bath water.
Administrative costs are out of control and waste is the norm for most all federal programs.
In the private sector, a highly inefficient business will soon be out of business. But, that is not the case with the feds. They just raise taxes or print more money or take out more loans.
As for other "social issues", whether you agree or not, there are many sides to most issues.
I assure you that you could never "lose" me.
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The latest involves Obama's "greening" of the military. The Navy is being forced to use fuel that costs $26 a gallon!
I assure you that you could never "lose" me.
Also $59/gal Jet fuel. WAIT! Doesn't that come from fuel producers? (youknow: The Evil)
Losing Hal is like getting away from the IRS... ain't gonna happen.
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Since we are on the subject of fuel prices. The latest Obama ad annoys me.
He said he wants to eliminate the oil subsidies to help out the lower classes (not sure of the exact wording) and have the wealthiest people pay a bit more.
I hope people are smart enough to realize that if the oil companies are making $1 billion now, they will want to make $1 billion if the subsidies are eliminated. When that happens the price at the pump goes up and the lower classes get to pay more per gallon of gas. The rich already pay a majority of taxes so they are in theory paying to keep the prices lower on gasoline.